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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 8, 2007 15:12:11 GMT -6
Dear Sirs; I would indeed wish to start my own party. If one of you gentlemen would point me to the person to whom I can declare my request for a new party, I would be very greatful. As to the fact to of the Paypal issue. One, preferably a member of the government level, should register a Premium account with paypal, and then a "Donate"-button can be established. People/Citizens could then donate as little as a few cents, or thousands of dollars depending on their will to better the Nation. As for the name of my Party I would hereby suggest: The Democratic People's Party (the "PDP") - a system based on parliamentarism. (The government must have the approval of the people to rule). Kind regards, Tony Weckström Ambassador to Finland Excuse the mix-up,
I meant election to the Senate.
BTW: If starting a political party, in what form does payment take place? Wire-transfers, Paypal, Cheques (UK), PPPay.com, Moneybookers.
I would also still wish to suggest to the Government, that we take use of Paypal, to create a "DONATION"-button, where everyone can donate funds to the government for different purposes. 1. Which province, Vuode or Atatürk? Those are the only two senate seats up for grabs. 2. If you wanted to start a political party, I believe any of those methods of payment would be alright, though I urge Mick to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 8, 2007 15:01:44 GMT -6
Excuse the mix-up,
I meant election to the Senate.
BTW: If starting a political party, in what form does payment take place? Wire-transfers, Paypal, Cheques (UK), PPPay.com, Moneybookers.
I would also still wish to suggest to the Government, that we take use of Paypal, to create a "DONATION"-button, where everyone can donate funds to the government for different purposes.S:reu Weckstrom, we have a party system. Are you announcing the formation of your own party? If this is the case, you need to submit the appropriate funds and register it with the Secretary of State. Or are you standing for election to the Senate? If this is the case, you need to specify which seat. I must confess I simply do not understand what you are doing here.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 8, 2007 13:11:32 GMT -6
As a citizen of honourable Cézembre Province, I, Tony Weckström, Ambassador to the Republic of Finland, do hereby;
Announce by candicacy in the General Election.
Election promises:
If elected I do hereby pledge the following promises as your representative;
-To better assist Talossan citizens traveling to Finland - by this meaning consular assistance, travel advice and legal advice.
-To help the Talossan government in diplomatic issues that may concern the Republic of Finland and Talossa, be it in trade, or other diplomatic representation.
-To condemn all actions of violence, abuse and intolerance, including racism or other ethnic insults on the Wittenberg by others towards others.
-To set up a website for easier voting, complete with CGI/PERL programming specific to our needs.
-To complete the Talossan Embassy website for Finland faster than it has thus far been made!
At the election "booths" - VOTE for AMBASSADOR WECKSTRÖM of Cézembre Province, for a better future of ALL Talossa!
Kind regards,
Tony Weckström Royal Talossan Ambassador to the Republic of Finland
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 8, 2007 13:37:25 GMT -6
I do on this date, hereby officially second the petition.
Kind regards, Tony Weckström
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 10, 2007 4:32:32 GMT -6
OK, I know edited it to just under 50 = 49. Ok now?! I will submit your candidacy For the Vacant seat for the Senator of Vuode. And it's supposed to be UNDER 50 words.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 10, 2007 1:28:02 GMT -6
Both are of course distinquished, but I would at this time wish to run for VUODE Province... On the 50 word political platform, I assumed it was a minimum - so is it ok as it is, or do I need to edit it more - the actual size would have been many hundred words... Which Province (Ataturk or Vuode) are you wanting to be the Senator for? (oh, and I need to point out the the 50 word Political platform is 5 words MAXIMUM....)
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 10, 2007 1:09:01 GMT -6
I, Tony Weckström, Ambassador to Finland, do hereby officially declare; that a new political party based on parliamentarism, shall be called "The People's Democratic Party", in short "PDP" - affiliations with other parties known as PDP is not intended. The required 50 word political line, that defines this party is as follows: Basic principles of the People's Democratic Party is to grow from the belief in the human resources of the people, in the importance of humanity, tolerance and in the meaning of co-operation making use for everybody. Social safety and freedom of choice, equality, this can be achieved by parliamentarism.(EDITED TO THE REQUIRED 50 WORDS = 49) The DPD does hereby announce it's first candidate, Mr. Tony Weckström, Ambassador to Finland, as it's first candidate for the upcoming General Election. New party members are welcome to join! After a small period of time, the PDP shall have it's own website, where members of the party can better communicate and share common thoughts, debate and better the Talossan Nation. On behalf of myself, and the Honourable Secretár d’Estat, Capt. Mick Preston for his assistance - I thank you all for your support in the upcoming elections! Long live Talossa! Could all the Party Leaders contact me with a list of the Candidates they intend to present for the Elections to the Senate Seats? The sooner, the better... but definitely before the 10th.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Nov 16, 2007 19:42:15 GMT -6
I just wondered, what shall Talossa call Burma?
Shall it be Burma, or Myanmar?
Both are acceptable internationally, but then there is the issue of for example the British Government, that it will not use the name Myanmar.
To quote from the Foreign Commonwealths website on the country profile on Burma they state "Britain's policy is to refer to Burma rather than 'Myanmar'. The current regime changed the name to Myanmar in 1989. Burma's democracy movement prefers the form ‘Burma’ because they do not accept the legitimacy of the unelected military regime to change the official name of the country."
What is then our position to be?
Kind regards,
Tony Weckström Royal Ambassador to Finland
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Nov 16, 2007 19:45:48 GMT -6
I do hereby second the petition.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Oct 12, 2007 15:52:13 GMT -6
Your Royal Majesty;
I sincerely thank you for this honour,
your humble servant,
Tony Weckström
Royal Ambassador to the Republic of Finland
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Sept 16, 2007 10:07:34 GMT -6
My father is British, so I guess I am more of a British-English speaking individual...
In any case - I've read through Diplomatic handbooks, books on Statehood, etc... and never are the words 'nation' EXACTLY the same as 'state'.
But enough of our tiny dispute over this word issue - let our esteemed government decide what is right and what is wrong.I do not know whether or not you are a native English speaker, but the words "Nation" and "state" in this context, to me, mean the same thing.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Sept 16, 2007 9:52:47 GMT -6
A nation is not a state, PERIOD! I am referring to the actual wording of the meanings behind NATION and STATE. As we in Talossa call ourselves a NATION, not a micronation, or a nation-state, what is the relevancy in researching "nation-state" concepts? The point behind all this is that either we shall call ourselves a NATION, or a STATE - as MICRONATION seems to be out of the question. But then again, the word NATION brings along a huge load of other meanings, as I stated in some earlier thread; for example the Nation of Islam, or the Aryan Nation. They would not call themselves micronations either, but they do not really work in the same way we do. Should Talossa then by your opinion be "the Nation-State of the Kingdom of Talossa"? Perhaps that would sound better than having ourselves in the micronational category, where we are listed everywhere on the internet. Just something to think about... Kind regards, Tony Weckström Royal Ambassador to the Republic of Finland for the Kingdom of Talossa TW, I implore you to do more research into the concept behind a "nation-state"
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Sept 15, 2007 17:14:34 GMT -6
Be that as it may,
if I would present to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Finland some sort of credentials of being the Royal Ambassador for Talossa, they would probably see me as a mad man - firstly they would require that Talossa would ACTUALLY own REAL land, occupy it, have a recognized government etc. which for example the UK or US has.
Is there then some sort of plan within the Kingdom of Talosssa to become recognized by another REAL country - which would take Talossa closer to being a internationally and diplomatically accepted country or territory???
Not even the Principality of Sealand has been given ANY diplomatic recognition, which is the most likely candidate of a 'micronation' to achieve such a goal.
Whatever a country, or nation wishes to call itself, it should not have an impact on the merits that the international community sets for a country to become recognized as a state.
Just a wild example, even if Ivory Coast should change it's name to Micronational Ivory Coast - I don't believe it would have any problems keeping it's recognized position as a UN member state.yes, I do say that the KOT is different for another Kingdom that calls itself a micronation, because by doing this they are making themselves not be recognized seriously by "real" nations.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Sept 15, 2007 17:00:00 GMT -6
What I mean is, that if a nation cannot be a state, then the Vatican cannot be called a nation. And in what sense do you distinguish our Kingdom of Talossa different from for example another 'Kingdom' that calls itself a micronation? But we do have a lot in common, so we fulfil this requirement We are very different from everyone else, we are Talossa!!!
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Sept 15, 2007 16:51:33 GMT -6
According to Wikipedia.org a NATION is NOT A STATE. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NationEspecially to the passage explaining the following:" A nation is not a state, and while traditionally monocultural, it may also be multicultural in its self-definition. The term nation is often used as a synonym for ethnic group (sometimes "ethnos"), but although ethnicity is now one of the most important aspects of cultural or social identity, people with the same ethnic origin may live in different nation-states and be treated as members of separate nations for that reason. National identity is often disputed, down to the level of the individual." From the same source: DEFINING A NATION " The national identity refers both to the distinguishing features of the group, and to the individual's sense of belonging to it. A very wide range of criteria is used, with very different applications. Small differences in pronunciation may be enough to categorize someone as a member of another nation. On the other hand, two people may be separated by difference in personalities, belief systems, geographical locations, time and even spoken language; yet regard themselves, and be seen by others, as members of the same nation.
The first requirement for the definition is that the characteristics should be shared - a group of people with nothing in common cannot be a nation. Because they are shared, the national population also has a degree of uniformity and homogeneity. And finally, at least some of the characteristics must be exclusive - to distinguish the nation from neighbouring nations. All of the characteristics can be disputed, and opposition to secessionist nationalism often includes the denial that a separate nation exists."
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