Óïn Ursüm
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Talossan Since: 3-10-2009
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Post by Óïn Ursüm on Aug 8, 2009 5:16:45 GMT -6
Is there a way that we can have some snazzy foil strips on the banknotes? I guess kitchen foil and glue wouldn't be the answer.
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Post by Jack Fenton on Aug 8, 2009 5:19:56 GMT -6
I don't think there's much chance of that.
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EM Vürinalt
Citizen since 12-20-2007
Parletz, am?c, en entrez
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Aug 8, 2009 6:42:38 GMT -6
That filter is perfect! I'll download that and try go get another set of images up using that. I wont use the filter for the ben glyphs and coats of arms though. If neccesary I will put them in black and white.
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Ieremiac'h Ventrutx
Former Senator of Florencia ~ Citizen of Talossa
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Post by Ieremiac'h Ventrutx on Aug 8, 2009 8:59:11 GMT -6
How about clay... Pirate Coins isn't the best for size but it would be possible to make them smaller with the right tools, and a template they would be consistent. www.polymerclayweb.com/piratecoin.asp
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Aug 8, 2009 10:29:35 GMT -6
A few quick thoughts on banknotes: 1. I won't address the issue of the name "Talossa" right now but it's still something we need to think about. 2. Talossan currency is beer-based so the design for the reverse should save some space for redemption terms, like those Hawaiian notes posted earlier in the thread. 3. I agree with whoever said all the notes should be the same size. The project will be cheaper that way, especially if we are going to have them professionally printed. The cheapest way to get them printed would be to have multiple notes printed on a standard paper size to avoid the cost of custom sizing, then cut the notes apart ourselves. For example, choosing dimensions such that 3-6 notes fit on a standard 8.5" x 11" sheet. Also for that reason, it might good to create designs with some kind of blank margin around the edge, like U.S. notes. I think cheaper printing options may be available if your design doesn't go right to the edge of the paper. 4. If we're considering putting people's images on currency, we should make sure the individuals concerned are okay with that. 5. I think we should focus on smaller denominations, like 1-20 Louise. For one thing, it'll be hard to find people willing to buy 500 Louise notes, so printing them will likely be a waste. For another, there's more incentive to counterfeit higher denominations because it's more economical -- almost no one bothers counterfeiting U.S. $1 bills. 6. Two more security features I had in mind: a) an original ink signature on each issued note, and b) each note could have a unique security key, something like a PGP encryption key, in addition to the serial number, maybe in the form of a bar code or matrix code. That would be safer than sequential serial numbers alone. On the other hand, printing with unique features (like serial numbers) on each note will be more expensive. Another cheaper option would be to have each note of a particular denomination be exactly the same at printing, leave a blank space for serial number, and buy a numbering stamp. Each note would be signed and stamped with a serial number at the time of issue. 7. I don't like the idea of provincial features on our national currency. There is zero chance of having currency printed in each province (even the U.S. doesn't print currency in each state, and it'd be vastly less economical in a country of Talossa's size) and I don't wan t to fake it. 8. We should really consider having this discussion in a less public forum (like the official committee formed for this purpose has had its discussions via e-mail). There's no sense airing all our ideas for security features in the open, especially if cost concerns cause us to consider some low-tech/cheap but clever ideas. Okay, that wasn't so quick after all, but hey there you go. And with the above caveats aside, I think Vüri's designs are looking really good. One final thing -- here are a couple of cool sites I discovered relating to currency design: www.theatlantic.com/doc/200906u/currencyrichardsmith.posterous.com/
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Óïn Ursüm
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Post by Óïn Ursüm on Aug 8, 2009 10:36:53 GMT -6
This gallery might contain some inspiring designs, also. E
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Post by Jack Fenton on Aug 8, 2009 11:29:25 GMT -6
On gathering my thoughts, I believe we must have all notes the same size, for practical/cost/logistical reasons. Vuri, is that alright with you? Are you able to rework the designs around one size?
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Aug 9, 2009 16:22:11 GMT -6
Can't remember who said that I would do the backs, but I won't. I certainly do not have the graphical skills for that.
For any vinyl emblems I would much prefer that the notes are all the same size. These emblems are most likley going to come out of my own pocket at first and I want to keep the cost down.
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Hooligan
Squirrel King of Arms; Cunstaval to Maricopa
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Post by Hooligan on Aug 9, 2009 17:20:31 GMT -6
Finished front of bills of all denominations: I like this one best since even though it says 500 louise, it also says I only promise to pay one hundred. :-)
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Post by Mic'haglh Altavilla on Aug 9, 2009 19:54:50 GMT -6
we can modifing the image of the king for make a luise like euro or dollar
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Post by Mic'haglh Altavilla on Aug 9, 2009 19:55:12 GMT -6
and a central bank
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Post by Jack Fenton on Aug 10, 2009 1:50:48 GMT -6
He got confused, I'm doin' the backs.
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Aug 10, 2009 8:50:03 GMT -6
The Talossan arms on the higher denomination obverse designs look cool, but the images we have for the arms are pretty low-resolution. A while back XPB produced a vector graphic version of just the circlet and shield from the lesser state arms. If you use that, it'll look much sharper. I also think the faux-watermark look of the ben symbol is very cool, how it's a constant shade that looks darker than the background at one end of the gradient and lighter than the background at the other end. Maybe you could make a simple B&W line art version of the aforementioned vector version of the lesser state arms and use that to create a similar effect. Here's a link to a couple samples of XPB's image, rendered in gold and silver to simulate use on coins, but I know he has a full-colour version too: talossa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1647#12106
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Sir X. Pol Briga
Talossan since 11-10-2005 Knight since 12-26-2009
59 is an important number - keep it prime in the thoughts of Talossa
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Post by Sir X. Pol Briga on Aug 10, 2009 11:08:06 GMT -6
The Talossan arms on the higher denomination obverse designs look cool, but the images we have for the arms are pretty low-resolution. A while back XPB produced a vector graphic version of just the circlet and shield from the lesser state arms. If you use that, it'll look much sharper. I also think the faux-watermark look of the ben symbol is very cool, how it's a constant shade that looks darker than the background at one end of the gradient and lighter than the background at the other end. Maybe you could make a simple B&W line art version of the aforementioned vector version of the lesser state arms and use that to create a similar effect. Here's a link to a couple samples of XPB's image, rendered in gold and silver to simulate use on coins, but I know he has a full-colour version too: talossa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1647#12106I have the lesser arms in Corel Draw as a vector format, but I can convert them to illustrator, eps, etc for other uses - PM me and I will be happy to send.
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Post by Mic'haglh Altavilla on Aug 11, 2009 4:29:59 GMT -6
i think so we can insert like old money the face of the king in the money and in some paper-money we can insert main and historical exponents or events.
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