Provincial Name Change Discussion

[Iason Bitxichë Taiwos]

I may be jumping the gun on this one, or stepping outside the boundaries of procedural protocol, but I see no reason why a discussion on changing our provinicial name can not begin here and now. We can at least have a forum to throw off suggestions, present ideas, etc.
So...any ideas, anyone? I have two.
"Capone Province", named for a great Italian-American who bravely fought to liberate booze during the repressive era of Prohibition.
"Leone Province", named after the brilliant Italian film director, Sergio, who gave us not just the Good and the Bad, but the Ugly as well.
"Morricone Province", named after the world famous composer who scored not a few of Leones films. Even scored the soundtrack to a film about those teetotaling temperance nuts who went after Capone ("The Untouchables".) (Wouldn't "the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" theme make for a great Provincial anthem? No boring lyrics to remember, and you can even whistle it.)
"Malatesta Province". He was an Italian anarchist that...umm...did some stuff. Not sure really what, but "Malatesta" sounds cool, anyway.
Split Benito into two halves, north and south, call one "Sacco", the other "Venzetti".
Wait. I think that's five ideas. Well. I never said I was any good at math. (I know enough to see that I am decidedly whipping Perthonest at the polls!)

[Vitxalmour Conductour]

i would suggest Linceo.

(...and you are bad at math, I have him ahead by two at the moment.)

[Stéafan D'Unmortadel]

In the other thread, I suggested:
Lombardi (a name isnt everything, its the only thing)
Temival (awesome)

The latter isnt Italian, but how awesome would it be to be the Awesome-ites (in English)

[Lüc da Schir]

My suggestions:
Lorentzio
Friul
Padania (okay, this one maybe no)

the other "Venzetti".

Vanzetti. No, impossible. In this case, is better to split up our province between Vuode (Riverside) and Florencia (Lorentzio).

[Deleted]

How about we leave it as Benito? We changed it to Benito for a reason, to restore the honor of men with the first name of Benito who had their first name tarnished by Mussolini.

This is change for the sake of change and I will vote against this in a provincial referendum as a private citizen.

But, if I am restored as Maestro, I will ensure that it actually goes to referendum. I disagree with. It, but it is the choice of the people, not the individual.

[Eldsfäts Blasiüs]

While I am fairly conservative (i.e. against change for the sake of change), having a province named Benito is like having a province named Adolf. Yep, sucks if you're an Adolf, but that bastard did a lot of terrible things. Ditto Mussolini.

I am fond of Tesla as a province name, myself.

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Jul 9, 2012 18:40:22 GMT -6 Eldsfäts Blasiüs said:

While I am fairly conservative (i.e. against change for the sake of change), having a province named Benito is like having a province named Adolf. Yep, sucks if you're an Adolf, but that bastard did a lot of terrible things. Ditto Mussolini.

I am fond of Tesla as a province name, myself.

Except Tesla was a Serbian- American.

Or a rock band from Sacramento, California.

[Owen Edwards]

Benito also happens to have the founder of the nation's forename in it - and that was, I believe, the point of the change.

Edit: And if it's wrong to call a place Benito, it's wrong to call a place Ataturk, according to a bunch of people anyway.

[Üc R. Tärfâ]

Jul 9, 2012 19:56:36 GMT -6 Owen Edwards said:

Benito also happens to have the founder of the nation's forename in it - and that was, I believe, the point of the change.

Yes, but the point is, in my opinion, that this version is a justification not very solid. "Welcome to the province of Benito, formerly known as Mussolini... oh wait, Benito stands for "Ben" ("little ben" they say but in which language???" not for Mussolini's first name, even if in the flag we have Italy's colours and even if we use italian names....

Jul 9, 2012 18:40:22 GMT -6 Eldsfäts Blasiüs said:

While I am fairly conservative (i.e. against change for the sake of change), having a province named Benito is like having a province named Adolf. Yep, sucks if you're an Adolf, but that bastard did a lot of terrible things. Ditto Mussolini.

Or Иосиф. That's the point...

Edit: And if it's wrong to call a place Benito, it's wrong to call a place Ataturk, according to a bunch of people anyway.

Kemal Ataturk was a particular person and leader. He did mistakes certainly, however you can't compare him to Mussolini who was an universally recognised dictator (the UN even honoured Ataturk on 1981 - so these are different levels.

[Ián B. Anglatzarâ]

Jul 10, 2012 0:11:07 GMT -6 Üc R. Tärfâ said:

Kemal Ataturk was a particular person and leader. He did mistakes certainly, however you can't compare him to Mussolini who was an universally recognised dictator (the UN even honoured Ataturk on 1981 - so these are different levels.

Beg to disagree. Atatürk was a ruthless dictator who got better press because he didn't end up on the wrong side in the war and was killed. They are definitely comparable.

[Sir Tamorán dal Navâ]

Yeah, generally dictators are awful. I can't think of any worth admiring.

[EM Vürinalt]

I'd be okay with a name switch. I think that Lombardi is admirable, even though the Packers play in Florencia and not in our province.

I would, however, suggest that if we change our province name, we should make it Talossan.

I can't necessarily name any suggestions right of the top of my head, but I do think that it is time for us to part ways with our honor to this dictator. The history will still be there for people to see, but I think in the interest of freedom, righteousness, and Talossanity, we should finally break ties with our more authoritarian past.

We can keep our province 'Italian' themed or influenced, for example, by picking an Italian person, city, building, etc. as inspiration, but I do think whatever we chose to do should be Talossified (changed into the Talossan language).

While it does mean spurning our 'Italian' (read- authoritarian-inspired) history, I think that it is time to Talossify our province, get rid of the heavy, clear Italian influences that link us to the Province of Mussolini past, and embrace a more welcoming, benign future.

[Sir Tamorán dal Navâ]

I would, however, suggest that if we change our province name, we should make it Talossan.

Much like Fiôvâ? :-)

[Lüc da Schir]

Hm. Lombardi is a nonsense noun, too similar to the centrenorthern Italian region Lombardia (the region with Milan).
Lombardi literally means "inhabitants of the Lombardia".

What about Savoia?

[Sir Tamorán dal Navâ]

Lango+bards!