Provincial Name Change Discussion

[Istefan Perþonest]

The province is explicitly named in Article 2 of the provincial constitution, and amending the provincial constitution requires both a resolution of the Chancellery and a referendum (the latter requiring three-fifths support among those voting).

[Lüc da Schir]

I'll vote for Garibaldi or Lorentzio. Being called as a Cjarvanian/Cjarcostian/Cjovanian/Cjartzarian sounds like I'm a diseased.

[EM Vürinalt]

I'm up for a Cjar something. I think it's time to break with the fake Italian 'culture.'

Looks like it will be an exciting vote.

[Deleted]

Aug 2, 2012 7:57:18 GMT -6 EM Vürinalt said:

I'm up for a Cjar something. I think it's time to break with the fake Italian 'culture.'

Looks like it will be an exciting vote.

If breaking with the Italian culture is your goal, then you will need to propose additional amendments to change the name of the Maestro and the Vicere, redesign the flag, rename the cantons and probably change some statutory laws we passed that probably came across as Italian.

If our goal is to stick it to Mussolini, sure I can see that. I can respect why our Italian-Talossans want to push that initiative as well.

But the Italian connection with our province has been around a very long time. It isn't just Italian culture, it has become a Benitian culture as well.

In waving our wand we will have changed the name of this province twice. In doing so, we are erasing a very proud oment that many of us shared; when we changed our name from Mussolini and had our constitution proclaimed. We thought it was good, after all, Benito (meaning "Little Ben") shifted the province back onto our founder and away from Mussolini.

Now we want even greater distance and I say, sure, why not? But if we change everything, we are tossing out our constitutional legacy right along with our Mussolini legacy. So as we move forward, can we please try to just keep things in perspective? Sme of us worked very hard on that constitution and renaming offices and the like, to have it all thrown out, "just because" leads me to question the stability of our province.

[Lüc da Schir]

Aug 2, 2012 7:57:18 GMT -6 EM Vürinalt said:

I think it's time to break with the fake Italian 'culture.'

Are you going to move to Pengopats?

[Owen Edwards]

Aug 2, 2012 7:57:18 GMT -6 EM Vürinalt said:

I'm up for a Cjar something. I think it's time to break with the fake Italian 'culture.'

Yeah, I'm for removing from Talossa all things which are not materially demonstrable. Down with imagination!

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

Apologies if you'd rather I didn't post here... If you do opt for naming your province Garibaldi, keeping in line with that wonderfully Italian link that your province has, why not translate the name into Talossan? Fiova did something along those lines in that it's a translation of Fiume (not a person but a place, though the principle still stands).

[Eðo Grischun]

Aug 6, 2012 4:49:48 GMT -6 C. Carlüs Xheraltescù said:

Apologies if you'd rather I didn't post here... If you do opt for naming your province Garibaldi, keeping in line with that wonderfully Italian link that your province has, why not translate the name into Talossan? Fiova did something along those lines in that it's a translation of Fiume (not a person but a place, though the principle still stands).

Interesting. Garibaldi can be broken down as 'Gari = Spear or Lance' and 'Baldi = Bold or Brave'

so would these work?

Dixhetcorax, Dixhetardit or Dixhetharþ (variations of Spear/bold/brave)

Lançacoraxhös, Lançardit or Lançaharþ (variations of lance/bold/brave)

[Ián B. Anglatzarâ]

Aug 6, 2012 7:18:48 GMT -6 Eðo Grischun said:

Garibaldi can be broken down as 'Gari = Spear or Lance' and 'Baldi = Bold or Brave'

I had no idea that the name Garibaldi had Germanic roots. Cool.

[EM Vürinalt]

There's a decent amount of Italian placenames and stuff that have Germanic roots thanks to the various Gothic tribes and the Vandals and whatnot, who ravaged the late Roman Empire.