Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Sept 12, 2014 13:29:20 GMT -6
You have a good point, yes! Thank goodness, that would have been a bad spot. It wasn't 100% clear at that point, so I proposed to let them vote a PRESENT vote, since they are not counted in the final tally. We have never (at least as far as I am aware) allowed underage citizens to vote in any form. This isn't new and it's something that if you were perhaps unclear about, you could have asked about. If you did ask, I didn't see it :-)
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Sept 13, 2014 2:50:50 GMT -6
Pretty sure I brought this up when it happened... You guys should pay more attention to what I say, y'know?
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Glüc da Dhi
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Sept 15, 2014 9:23:02 GMT -6
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Post by Colonel Mximo Carbonèl on Sept 17, 2014 13:27:46 GMT -6
Azul,
This graph is very cool. It show the support for each group.
How ZRT is stable and How MRPT is also stable since the merge. It show that PC support come from the RUMP. It show that RUMP and No-RUMP party vote transfert is very low.
Nice work
Mximo
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 22, 2014 16:47:50 GMT -6
Can I *please* ask a legal expert exactly what still needs to actually happen for the election result to be confirmed? Yes, this proves I'm an imbecile who doesn't understand the Organic or Statutory laws, but take pity on this poor soul. I want to know what I'm waiting for.
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Sept 22, 2014 16:51:10 GMT -6
Org.VII.6:
I have not found any legal provisions about what happens when one member of the EC does not agree with the other 3.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 22, 2014 17:46:04 GMT -6
Right. Ián Tamorán has certified the election, and no others have yet, am I right?
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
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Talossan Since: 9-23-2012
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Sept 22, 2014 18:06:53 GMT -6
Right. Ián Tamorán has certified the election, and no others have yet, am I right? Ian Tamoran is the EC member who has marked Aspra Laira's ballot as invalid, so no, he has NOT certified the results. Dame Litz marked as invalid the vote of Cresti Newton. Only Owen and MPF have marked all ballots as valid. Anyone who knows how to get in touch with Justice Tamoran might nudge him towards completion or letting the Chancery know why he believes Aspra's ballot is invalid. From my understanding of the law, ALL members of the EC have to agree on ALL ballots and that has so far not happened.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 22, 2014 18:38:27 GMT -6
Right. So by "certified", we don't mean a public declaration of THIS ELECTION IS VALID, just an agreement between all four EC members about which votes are valid and which aren't? Is that your belief? However, Justice Tamorán, in this post, said that he was going to validate Aspra Laira's vote, which makes all four Justices agreed that that is valid. And Justice Cjantschéir's invalidation of Newton's vote makes no difference as it was a PRESENT vote. Given that, I argue that all four justices have verified the substantive issue - that the vote totals for the respective parties here - are correct; and thus if no-one has any better options, I am going to take a case to the Magistrate's Cort to declare this election certified.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Sept 22, 2014 18:49:33 GMT -6
I will be curious to see that.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 22, 2014 21:45:58 GMT -6
Well, give me a few hours, I just cycled home and I need a nap. But hopefully by morning Talossan time.
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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Sept 22, 2014 21:55:54 GMT -6
and thus if no-one has any better options, I am going to take a case to the Magistrate's Cort to declare this election certified. Is that really necessary? I mean, all we need to do is get someone to remind Justice Tamorán to officially press whatever button he's supposed to press. Doesn't seem like a court case is the way to go here. Also, perhaps once we get the Cosa seats distributed, we could change it so that the EC doesn't have to be unanimous. Maybe just a 75%?
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 22, 2014 22:09:19 GMT -6
We can't trust that Justice Tamorán will be back within days or even months.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 22, 2014 22:50:02 GMT -6
Anyway, I've filed my petition if you want to go look at it in the Corthouse. I'm happy to withdraw it whenever Ián or Litz turn up and fix this mess.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 22, 2014 22:59:49 GMT -6
One more point: none of the Senäts results are in dispute in any way. So why can't the new Senators be formally declared elected, even if we insist on saying that the Cosâ result is in dispute?
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