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Post by Eðo Grischun on Jun 25, 2009 7:56:48 GMT -6
Nope, I still fail to see how that makes me power hungry. I challenge you once more to find the quote you refered yo previously. I guarantee you wont find it as it was never said.
I didn't bring that matter up...YOU DID. Please read over the previous posts of this thread you will find that I did not mention anything to do with this until you brought it up. I came here because I have a problem with your new found terrible attitude that you have picked up not with you forming a new party. I actually dont have a problem with the ZPT, people join and leave parties...big deal and big woop.
It's difficult to believe that you are going to be the same pro-pan-talossan when your rolling with a party that wants to build up an iron curtain around the Republic. The ZPT don't want anything to do with the Republic and by membershp extension alone that is now what you appear to stand for.
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Xhorxh Asmour
Talossan since 02-21-2003
Wot? Me, worry?
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Post by Xhorxh Asmour on Jun 25, 2009 8:14:37 GMT -6
When I was chatting with you, I saw that you changed the GTalk configurations to keep the conversation off the record, so I copied and pasted it on MSWord.
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Jun 25, 2009 8:32:38 GMT -6
even still, I ask you to back up your claims that I said "I will do as I like".
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Jun 25, 2009 8:35:10 GMT -6
Regardless of what this conversation has become (to be frank i don't care about your ill will regarding the past, because I have made amends with V and we both agree it was a stupid thing that is best left in the past) my original point was to highlight the manner in which you have been conducting yourself which I think is disgracful for a senats candidate.
edit: sticky laptop keys cause spelling errors, grrrrr
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jun 25, 2009 8:37:26 GMT -6
When I was chatting with you, I saw that you changed the GTalk configurations to keep the conversation off the record, so I copied and pasted it on MSWord. Hm.
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Xhorxh Asmour
Talossan since 02-21-2003
Wot? Me, worry?
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Post by Xhorxh Asmour on Jun 25, 2009 8:50:22 GMT -6
In the last few days, all I've done is defend myself from personal attacks. If it were with you, would you just turn the other cheek?
Eddie, I admit that "I'll do as I like" were not your exact words, but why did you go off the record and say "Party membership is not of any members' business other than Flip and myself"? How would it sound to a person with a normal IQ ? Weren't you afraid that those arrogant words became public?
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Jun 25, 2009 9:07:06 GMT -6
No, not really. I still stand by any statement that I made. Party membership was not of your concern. I don't see how ... and after having conversations with several other folks, they seem to be in the same opinion as myself. You are right though, If it were myself I probably would not turn the other cheek. However, I would not resort to statments such as these; - contrary to yours, Iustì, which hides behind the KOTnet mailing list.
- Holding grudges won't take you anywhere, my friend! Put an ice bag on your head and relax.
- I can feel the presence of a PP lapdog....
- And a whole bunch of humanitarian aid people who do not belong to this province and who swear they're NOT PP members immediately come to the rescue..... I can't sleep with all that noise!
- I'm so sorry that you've now become a political zombie or vampire - roaming the streets of Talossa in despair looking for someone whose neck to bite.
Not exactly the kind of words we want to hear from our senats candidates. To be frank with you again, you would be an utter digrace to the Senate (in my own opinion and with all due respect)
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Xhorxh Asmour
Talossan since 02-21-2003
Wot? Me, worry?
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Post by Xhorxh Asmour on Jun 25, 2009 9:25:23 GMT -6
You said, " ... after having conversations with several other folks, they seem to be in the same opinion as myself."
In that case, why do you think the rest of your party members left? Were they among those folks you mentioned?
"To be frank with you again, you would be an utter digrace (sic) to the Senate (in my own opinion and with all due respect)"
As a citizen and voter, you're free to think and do as you like. This is not Iran or Myanmar.
"no party, no manifesto."
Your bag is empty, my friend.
sticky laptop keys cause spelling errors, grrrrr
That's why you keep hitting the same key again and again! :-)
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Jun 25, 2009 9:43:57 GMT -6
Ricardo Left due to time constraints outwith Talossa, he still voted FGP incidentally. After you and Ventrutx left, I was next then Flip. So to answer the question the party members left after the party broke down, and nothing to do with the issues you raise today. In nutshell, no. and I shall continue to think so until you become a better candidate. I have no need for a manifesto because I don't think as an independant candidate I can really expect the whole electorate to vote me into a majority. I have no party through choice. I still have a bag to carry sir, believe me .. I can produce the goods.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2009 11:35:18 GMT -6
There was nothing hyperbolic about Xhorxh's alleged attack. Ridiculous, perhaps. But by my dictionary, nothing hyperbolic about it. Your point seems to be that Xhorxh's statement was not hyperbole because he was not intentionally exaggerating the significance of Iustì's use of a KoT.net e-mail address (with the intent that it be seen as exaggeration), he actually literally meant it. If so, thanks for clearing that up. It reveals that "hyperbolic" was perhaps not the best choice of terms (it may have been too charitable), but hardly makes Xhorxh's original statement look any better. I have a problem with "raging ass" too. I don't think he should have resorted to name-calling, and have said so. But to try to get back at him by twisting the "dictator" comments into an attack against you is unjustified. And look, there's V doing it again a couple of posts below yours. Apparently the PP continues to throw stones. Oh look another one. You seem to have mistaken me for a PP member. I have been a proud and loyal member of the RUMP since the day I co-founded it in 2005. This kerfuffle started with Xhorxh making a silly attack against a RUMPer and Owen coming to the RUMPer's defense. I didn't think the PP as a party had anything to do with it. My reason for questioning the usage of hyperbole stems from misuse of words. People like to throw out big adjectives/adverbs to make themselves seem smarter and better prove their point when in reality their misuse makes them seem the very opposite. Not that I am saying this is you, but Owen misused Hyperbole. We both agree on this. Moving on, please edit your prior post to accurately show who said "oh look the PP is throwing rocks again..." or whatever the line is. I searched through pages and found it wasn't me. Moreover, it is quite obvious that JP was not calling you a member of the PP. I do not believe this must be spelled out for you.
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Ieremiac'h Ventrutx
Former Senator of Florencia ~ Citizen of Talossa
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Talossan Since: 3-1-1997
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Post by Ieremiac'h Ventrutx on Jun 25, 2009 22:20:01 GMT -6
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Jun 26, 2009 5:45:25 GMT -6
Okay then, let's address the truth of the matter as I am not in mourning for MJ.
The ZPT calls themselves Talossa's "True Opposition." This is a false claim. How can you be the true opposition when every member of your party was in the last government? How? Are you opposing yourselves and the actions that you have done? In that case, join up with us!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2009 6:11:39 GMT -6
Okay then, let's address the truth of the matter as I am not in mourning for MJ. The ZPT calls themselves Talossa's "True Opposition." This is a false claim. How can you be the true opposition when every member of your party was in the last government? How? Are you opposing yourselves and the actions that you have done? In that case, join up with us! How are you opposition when your own leader was in the last THREE RUMP government's? Really dreu, your logic is forever flawed.
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Xhorxh Asmour
Talossan since 02-21-2003
Wot? Me, worry?
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Post by Xhorxh Asmour on Jun 26, 2009 7:13:53 GMT -6
Touché!
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Jun 26, 2009 7:18:55 GMT -6
That's really not a "touché" moment. The Immigration Minister is not really a policy setter for the government. The MinStuff, MinFin, and ESPECIALLY the PM are.
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