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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2009 7:56:20 GMT -6
Well, my e-mail address has always been (and will remain) publicly disclosed - contrary to yours, Iustì, which hides behind the KOTnet mailing list. Seriously, Xhorxh, the Kingdom makes those addresses available as a service to all citizens, as one more way for Talossans to express their Talossanity. I'm proud to use mine. Why would you want to cast aspersions on that? Nothing he said was exaggerated nor meant not to be taken literally; therefore, nothing he said was "hyperbolical." Let this be another example of the double standard that is used by the PP when it comes to *negative campaigning.* Owen responded to a ridiculous, hyperbolic attack by calling Xhorxh on it. (And without name-calling, thanks Owen.) He was confronting negative campaigning, not initiating it. And if the defense is that Xhorxh's attack was just a joke, I'd say the double standard this incident sheds light on is the continued complaining from ZPT leaders about Owen's blatantly ironic description of JP as a "dictator." Come on, guys. There was nothing hyperbolic about Xhorxh's alleged attack. Ridiculous, perhaps. But by my dictionary, nothing hyperbolic about it. Owen came out and involved himself in something that really had nothing to do with him. So I stand by my earlier post Cresti. It's a double standard being used by the PP. Not for nothing, but nothing you have said has disproved any of the points I made.
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Ieremiac'h Ventrutx
Former Senator of Florencia ~ Citizen of Talossa
Posts: 990
Talossan Since: 3-1-1997
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Post by Ieremiac'h Ventrutx on Jun 24, 2009 11:39:40 GMT -6
... continued complaining from ZPT leaders about Owen's blatantly ironic description of JP as a "dictator." Come on, guys. Um I didn't have a problem with his "ironic" description of my time as Prime Minister, he was poking with a stick and I let him know I noticed. HOWEVER! I DO have a problem with him calling me very unChristian names and every one in the PP standing around patting one another on the back rather than bringing Owen into line Apparently the PP continues to throw stones. Oh look another one. Come on , Vote ZPT.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Jun 24, 2009 11:45:28 GMT -6
Well... I suppose he could call you a Momser... that would be unnecessary and ridiculous, but as long as it's unChristian I'm okay with it. Also, when you make ridiculous claims about someone, as you did in the thread where Owen "called you names," I somehow think they're entitled to call you whatever name they want. Especially when you lie about their record and purposely mislead the public.
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Xhorxh Asmour
Talossan since 02-21-2003
Wot? Me, worry?
Posts: 1,754
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Post by Xhorxh Asmour on Jun 24, 2009 11:51:35 GMT -6
I can feel the presence of a PP lapdog....
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Jun 24, 2009 11:54:10 GMT -6
Really? All I can feel is someone standing up to the ZPT in a way that should have been done long ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2009 11:58:11 GMT -6
Well... I suppose he could call you a Momser... that would be unnecessary and ridiculous, but as long as it's unChristian I'm okay with it. Also, when you make ridiculous claims about someone, as you did in the thread where Owen "called you names," I somehow think they're entitled to call you whatever name they want. Especially when you lie about their record and purposely mislead the public. If anybody has mislead the public, evidence clearly shows it being the Progressive Party and their attempt at lying to make Owen a viable candidate for Prime Minister. Neither myself, the ZPT, nor Talossa is fooled into thinking that you or your party will actually do a decent job when his crappy record and his many many man excuses as to why he couldn't do his job before he tried to resign. How many times was he inactive? Hmmm... The only lies that are being told are by your little pseudo- RUMP party and the double standard where your party leader can call JP a raging ass, call him dictator, and go after the RUMP but when it is done to them it is negative. Please, it's time your party grows up if it wants to play with the big boys.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2009 11:58:59 GMT -6
Really? All I can feel is someone standing up to the ZPT in a way that should have been done long ago. The PP is crying because someone is finally standing up to their lies and the bullsh*t they have been spewing. They did it to the RUMP but couldn't/can't handle it done to them. Hypocritical really.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Jun 24, 2009 12:03:59 GMT -6
You know, it's funny, Owen called JP a raging ass weeks ago and yet you're still at it. We were the bigger men when JP called Arabs "ragheads." That was a serious offense. But we have not mentioned it since. Stop making mountains out of molehills. The PP is not a syndicate that is going to bring down Talossa. We have no lies, we have no malintent. You're making a fool of yourself, now stop it.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Jun 24, 2009 12:05:22 GMT -6
By big boys do you mean we'd have to be bigots, people who threaten to leave every two seconds, and apologists? Hmm... I wonder where I got the idea for that?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2009 12:05:53 GMT -6
You know, it's funny, Owen called JP a raging ass weeks ago and yet you're still at it. We were the bigger men when JP called Arabs "ragheads." That was a serious offense. But we have not mentioned it since. Stop making mountains out of molehills. The PP is not a syndicate that is going to bring down Talossa. We have no lies, we have no malintent. You're making a fool of yourself, now stop it. Funny, I think Talossans are seeing through the lies that are the PP. The crap about how much they've done for talossa or will do. The PP lead an extremely negative campaign by its standards against the RUMP a few months ago. How quickly you have forgotten about that. Like I said, pure hypocrisy.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Jun 24, 2009 12:07:44 GMT -6
Was the MIB II Act PP? Was the Senäts Reform act PP? Was the Humanitarian Aid Fund Act PP?
Hmm... let's see... oh yes! It was!
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Xhorxh Asmour
Talossan since 02-21-2003
Wot? Me, worry?
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Post by Xhorxh Asmour on Jun 24, 2009 12:08:25 GMT -6
And a whole bunch of humanitarian aid people who do not belong to this province and who swear they're NOT PP members immediately come to the rescue..... I can't sleep with all that noise!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2009 12:13:49 GMT -6
By big boys do you mean we'd have to be bigots, people who threaten to leave every two seconds, and apologists? Hmm... I wonder where I got the idea for that? Wonderful! So you have basically called all the old timer politicans in Talossan (JP, Manus, King John, Sir Fritz, Troxta) bigots. Nice dreu, so much for the ZPT being the only name callers. Oh look, there is that double standard coming back with a vengeance.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2009 12:19:13 GMT -6
Was the MIB II Act PP? Was the Senäts Reform act PP? Was the Humanitarian Aid Fund Act PP? Hmm... let's see... oh yes! It was! Are you kdding me? you're taking responsibility for the Senate Reform? BWAHAHAH. That was an RDP bill. As usual, Owen just latched onto someone eases work.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Jun 24, 2009 12:28:35 GMT -6
Tim is a member of the PP.
No, Manus, King John, etc. etc. are not members of the ZPT nor have they voted ZPT (Fritz has, but I hardly see him as a member).
I am calling anyone who uses the word "ragheads" to describe a group of people a bigot. That's the truth.
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