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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Nov 22, 2016 14:45:37 GMT -6
Yes, what we do not need is the 12 page monster from the last election. I was trying to follow it and it defeated me.
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Nov 22, 2016 14:40:03 GMT -6
We're already three pages into this thread, could we perhaps give voters a break and spread the discussion out a bit? Its going to become illegible otherwise.
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Nov 22, 2016 12:04:25 GMT -6
As the parent thread is beginning to grow unwieldy, as a public service I would like to address the points made by S:reu Plätschisch in the below post here. talossa.proboards.com/post/148545/threadLet us leave aside his reiteration of the "mea culpa, but so are you" argument that has so devastated the FreeDem campaign. Perhaps voters will indeed agree to ignore the existence of the last six months and refight the 49th Cosa election all over again. Seeing as the ModRads received a severe correction from the electorate in that contest, I don't why they would want to relive it - but never mind. Instead let us look at his view of government in this country. He now appears to acknowledge a minor role for the government in the redressment of Talossa, but still insists that the cold dead hand of the state threatens to throttle "private initiative". He has also registered an account on Instagram. The whole matter revolves around the question of responsibility, as far as I'm concerned. The private citizen bears *no responsibility* for Talossa. Their only duty is to respond to the Census. Aside from that, they can do what they will, and dangerously large numbers appear to be deciding "sod this, I'm watching Netflix". The responsibity for this community rests with HM government alone, and we have all witnessed the result of a live experiment this term as to what happened when that government simply fades away. And as I have said...no one can predict the future. A FreeDem led government may well fall flat on its face. As for me, I don't think.that we have the luxury of failure. Talossa is running out of second chances. We have measured the amplitude of the problem, and ate determined to address it. We can only hope the ModRads catch up.
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Nov 21, 2016 14:06:56 GMT -6
I've been struggling to respond to this latest series of posts.
Sarcasm is tempting but its a two edged blade, and I've had my one tantrum of the campaign (sorry Glüc-but the Clark idea is still a good one ;-)).
Anguish is inappropriate, since Talossa is silly. SERIOUSLY silly, but still silly. The country I live in might have a crypto-fascist President next May, so I'll save the impotent rage for that election. It might add years to my life.
Searching my feelings, the best I can come up with is dismay. Dismay at the fatalism displayed by our serving Minister of STUFF, and who affects to find something sinister in our government trying to promote our country any way it can. This was the job he sought in the last Cabinet after all. At least he (half)-accepts his responsibility for his failure (tempering it with the conviction that the FreeDems will also fail, so that's alright then).
Its not conservatism, since one could conceive of conservative ways of combatting the national malaise (making more of the monarchy? Bring back RUMP Day?) Its in fact a void of ideas, masquerading as libetarianism.
The Talossan state is not weighing down private initiative. Its the opposite. We have an incredibly weak state, with virtually no coercive power (and thank Christ for that!). People come to us for the politics, and accessorily the language. Our challenge as a country, in my view, and there may even be FreeDems who disagree, is to make this as accessible and fun as possible. When friendships are created and hijinks ensue, its because of our success in building a thriving political and linguistic community, and not the other way around.
The ideas in our manifesto do not rule out private initiative. Tell your friends about Talossa. Win the Prime Minister's Patriotic Award if thats your bag. If the FreeDems have something to do with it, you'll have something to point them to. Can the present government say that?
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Nov 21, 2016 9:51:30 GMT -6
When's your party leader showing up? So if I do all the work the MRPT is a one man party; if I coordinate our campaign, talk with other citizens, take care of our outreach efforts, chair an entire Congress (did you remember that? the one you actually spoke for?), it's "when am I showing up". Oh I was just being cranky. It happens, and it was a cheap shot which I regret, because I am constantly impressed at your level of political organisation. But...its a fair question to ask what you have been doing to apply that talent *as Distain* for the past term, isn't it? The deliberately ambiguous stance of the FreeDems on constitutional issues is well known at this stage. The point of the party is to federate reform-minded, progressive people and not trip up over details in the short term. So even though we are not all on the same page, we don't believe that we should therefore throw away the book. Its true to say that the subject of the ideal size of the Cosa has not come up in our discussions so far this election. That's because an ideal electoral system, on which opinions may vary, isn't much good without voters to use it. Thats what we're worried about, and that's what we hope to have a crack at after this election.
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Nov 21, 2016 1:40:32 GMT -6
The question does not lie in who is the best missionary for Talossa. There's little point in proselytising if there's nothing to do or see when one does check out the Kingdom. This is what I hope all the parties can address in this election.
It was unfair of me to call you out individually - because I know you are a committed Talossan, and a genuinely nice person, so I apologise for that. This isn't a question of individuals - there's no man or woman on a white horse who can personally make Talossa fun and interesting again. Its certainly not me!
And contrary to what was said in the last election, it clearly isn't a straightforward matter of just trying harder- we saw this with the present government, whose impetus ran out very quickly. And honestly I fear that electoral reform and other legal aspects your party focuses on, whatever its many merits in the abstract, isn't addressing this.
The FreeDems may be wrong or right in our answers (we're still right about the Clark! ;-)), but I am convinced that we are asking the right questions of ourselves and of the country - how we can get stronger as a country, and how we can generate some excitement among our population.
We hope the other parties will join us in this, but I'm sorry to say that I don't see a lot of evidence so far. Please prove me wrong!
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Nov 20, 2016 13:52:33 GMT -6
To just one more question before I go. S;reu Crova, how often do you talk with inactive citizens outside your direct circle of friends, but new citizens as well. I dont mean send your political propaganda, but you know, just chat? Thats an interesting question. None of your business is my answer. Is there a quota for bugging complete strangers on the internet that I have to fill? I can only assume the "political propaganda" is a reference to ETT. The ModRads have had no reason to complain about the generous coverage they have received its columns, including your recent Congress.
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Nov 20, 2016 13:42:54 GMT -6
If you want to make a newsletter sure, but many MCs cant even be bothered to read bills. Do you really think a list of those and pers and contras make for an engaging read? I think you may have misunderstood the point of the measure, which explains things a bit. I freely admit I lost my temper at the word "spam", which I read as a slur on a measure that is emphatically not "junk". The communication (not necessarily a mail, because it is 2016) would be: -the list of bills on the Clark *to be voted on*. Just links to the text on talossa.ca, I should think, though maybe the text in collapsable form. -the terpelaziuns answered in the period, since these are usually buried in the Ziu boards, when answered at all. - an opportunity for political groups, through the statement, to put the Clark into context for voters, particularly those who don't have time or energy to wade through Hopper threads. (i.e., "we are really supportive/opposed to Bill X, for these reasons, and we'd like you to know that") I find it odd that one the one hand you vaunt your party's record in the Ziu, insisting that voters will be mightily impressed, and simultaneously denigrate the idea that voters might be vaguely interested in what is done there. And I repeat even if a handful of people find it useful, it will be worth doing. I think the pejorative use of the word "bureaucracy" says a lot. This is an extension of what the Chancery already does, not the brainchild of some Gosplan. And it might actually help, even at the margins. I would also suggest that the Balloting Period only started 5 days ago, and our party leader was off giving his person to the democratic process in the great state of North Carolina before then. We didn't want to start without him, simple as that, and our manifesto isn't as, er, "long-term" as yours. When's your party leader showing up?
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Nov 20, 2016 11:51:04 GMT -6
. As for worries of conditioning people to be apathetic, I highly doubt anyone who's still genuinely passionate about the goings-on here would blatantly ignore emails from the CHANCERY labelled ELECTION or CENCUS. If they do choose to ignore these things, then, again, they've already lost interest. Precisely. A casual citizen might take a look and be intrigued enough to visit Wittenberg. It really feels like Glüc da Dhi has given up on this country a bit. He seems to assume that the little people are grateful to his party for Perfect Attendance, but simultaneously so horrified at the thought of reading one single, rather relevant, new email from their country that they will consign it to the Junk folder. Of course, a party that simply wants to remain perpetually in government without responsibity, regardless of the election results, wouldn't care much about a shrinking population, since their only goal is to amuse themselves (and not the rest of us). I hope that's not the case. Perhaps the ModRads can reassure us on that point, and describe some of their ideas not only for keeping existing citizens, but finding new ones. And explain why they didn't implement those ideas during the past term?
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Nov 20, 2016 11:20:35 GMT -6
The complacency of Glüc da Dhi has demonstrated in this post is extraordinary. It is however sadly typical of his party.
Talossa is not a law book with attached discussion forum. It is a country, and a community. And our people are starting to turn away from us.
The ModRad Ministers who have presided over this accelerating slide into apathy have made no apology, nor offered any explanation. They simply pat themselves on the back for "perfect attendance", and anticipate the next coalition.
The copy and pasting of their 49th Cosa manifesto in virtually all particulars is evidence of their complete dearth of ideas on this essential question. As is Glüc's frankly surprising resort to demagoguery about "spam" in relation to one of the (many) ideas in our manifesto.
An informative, low-effort digest of our political life, sent once a month on the same basis as political advertising (i.e., entirely under the control of the citizen)? If it helps even one alienated citizen renew their interest in Talossa, it will be worth it. But no, seems like too much work to S:reu da Dhi.
Indeed I think I can speak for everyone in my party when I say that if the ModRads are short on inspiration, we are happy for them to steal a few of our ideas, if only for the sake of debate. We have plenty!
We FreeDems, on the other hand, are not prepared to simply wait for the cycle to run its course, amusing ourselves in the Ziu while Talossa crumbles. We have to prepare now to ensure that there will be 50 more Cosas!
In fact we FreeDems know a bit about rebuilding after a bust. As Glüc was positively eager to point out, the months since the Summer have been difficult for our party. Any reader of ETT's coverage will have attested that I myself, sympathetic though I was to the FreeDems, was frankly sceptical of their ability to survive.
In the Summer, we lost our party leader Miestrâ Schivâ, exhausted by her relentless commitment to speaking truth to power in this country. Our acting leader, Dr Txec dal Nordselvă, and the Senator from Fiovâ, CCX, were both forced by personal and professional circumstances to abandon politicking in Talossa. The FreeDems were, in short, decimated.
But we have rebuilt. Our leader, Dien Tresplet, is ready and eager for the responsibility of leading the next government.
His drive and example have drawn old friends back to the party- Françal and even Miestrâ have returned. When I and Viteu Marcianus wanted to join a party serious abourt reform and ready for power, we both chose the FreeDems.
We have a well-manned Cosa list and are contesting three of the Senäts seats-even challenging the ModRad leader on his home turf.
In the gloomy context, virtually single-handed, and unaided by the stasis of the ModRad-RUMP coalition, Dien Tresplet has already pulled off an exploit.
And the trick in Talossa, in my view, is not in avoiding the dips, because that's impossible. The trick is knowing how to climb out again. Dien has already proven he can lead through adversity. Let's see what he can do as Seneschal!
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Sept 26, 2016 14:32:04 GMT -6
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Sept 26, 2016 10:16:31 GMT -6
Start your own, if you have 10$ to spare!
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Sept 22, 2016 7:59:24 GMT -6
Isn't CCX also out of the Senate? He didn't vote in the August Clark either.
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Apr 21, 2016 2:22:41 GMT -6
Estimats Cxhns, You may not be surprised to learn that the winner is Glüc da Dhi with 100% of the votes cast www.opavote.com/results/6301737119907840/0I'm also pleased to say that of 31 voters, 16 did their duty and showed some love for the Best Province (and the only one with a real beach). For a low stakes, uncontested election this is a civic performance to be proud of! Glüc, if you still want to can you provide the name of your representative as soon as possible so I can organise the review with him or her. Deadline is 27/04, as the election "expires" then, and results will becone unavailable without payment. I will create an entry in the wiki shortly so the detail of the results can be made public.
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Post by Inxheneu Crova on Apr 18, 2016 12:30:44 GMT -6
The FAQ is here. www.opavote.com/faqThis election cost me 10$ but thats due to the length of the election-if we took a day off the voting period it it would be 5$, but the window for getting the results would be a bit narrow. The results wont be permanently available at OpaVote either, as they are deleted on the expiry of the election, but apparently you can save the details before the election expires (voting is set to stop on 20th but the election is still available until 27th). A glitch might be that one has to use ones Google account to log in, and without thinking I used my actual google account. I had thought the rep could log into the election manager to see the election, and I think that should be enough, but id have to be sure they didnt take the ipportunity to poke around my email! Let me see what the election report actually shows when the voting stops, that might be sufficient for checking the set up. From what I remember of BallotBin it should be enough election for us, but it doesnt seem to work any more, unfortunately. OpaVote is the only solution I could find with a reasonable price at short notice, but I'm not wedded to it. After the election is over it would be worth testing it a bit more to see how it could work for us. For the senate election, it might be a little expensive to follow Chancery rules, but I havent investigated it yet. I wouldnt rule out using the chancery, but maybe with a cezembrean Deputy SoS?
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