EM Vürinalt
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 23, 2012 8:59:44 GMT -6
What Snape says.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 23, 2012 0:31:53 GMT -6
Now we're just waiting on the RUMP...
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 21, 2012 15:55:08 GMT -6
Okay, I think the RUMP and the CeR need to assign seats still, and then we're all good to get this show on the road.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 21, 2012 8:44:38 GMT -6
Poking my head out of my shiny new office cupboard in the Scribery, I wanted to present a possible idea for how bills, statues, etc. could be formatted and presented. It's not flashy, but it's clean, precise, aesthetically pleasing. This is just a rough draft. Quick notes and features: -Everything is bilingually supported, hence the dual language header. Since our official language is Talossan, Talossan comes first, then English. Also, since the Kingdom officially uses post-Arestada orthography, that's what I used (sorry ZRTers). - The Header is interchangeable for every government ministry, political body, etc. The logo in the top left will be changed to the logo or coat of arms of said body. If a body has none, the The Lesser State Arms will be used. The name of the body will obviously be changed to reflect who is publishing it. Any collection or body of texts is represented underneath the publishing body. So here, we see: Regipäts Talossan | Kingdom of Talossa La Cosa | The Cosa L’Anuntzia dels Legeux | The Digest of Laws If the College of Arms was publishing something for an honors day, it'd say: Regipäts Talossan | Kingdom of Talossa El Coletx d'Armeux | The College of Arms Þonörs | Honors - The text header/title comes underneath the general header. Here, we see the statue number and name. In other publications this would be a date, location, document title, etc. Here we have: 43RZ28 | The Bernard P. Fife Act If we were doing an honors day, it'd have: 22.6.2012/XXXIII | St. Aaron's Day Honors - Political party has been added after names - Use of coats of arms as 'digital signatures'. If a citizen doesn't have one, a personal symbol or Talossan flag can be used instead. Our arms mean something just beyond them being cool looking! So what are your guys' thoughts and suggestions? -EMV Attachments:
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 19, 2012 1:13:39 GMT -6
Yeah, it's possible. Cresti's post is a little ambiguous in that respect.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 19, 2012 1:07:12 GMT -6
Okay, trying to keep this die rolling:
Currently proposed names: Cjovana (meaning 'Lynx', giving honor to Accademia dei Lincei)
Carica (meaning 'Oak Grove', named after our forest)
Cjartzara (meaning 'Oakland')
Cjarcosta (meaning 'Oak-river bank)
Benedetto (the full form of 'Benito', named after the Pope)
Lorenzo (named for various provincial connections)
Selva de Grenza (named for Edgewood, the historical name of our forest)
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 17, 2012 0:40:29 GMT -6
I have to admit that I am not entirely clear on the whole "Italian" association thing, but I don't expect anyone to go into the long, sordid history of it for my benefit. Our province was originally named "Mussolini" because our crazy ex-King Ben apparently 'thought it sounded nice.' Now, when you learn about Ben and people's views of him, he seemed to act in a very authoritarian manner, and, therefore, the de facto honoring of the most famous Mussolini, Benito Mussolini of the fascist Italian state, had a certain appreciation beyond just the sounds of the name. About 4 years ago, myself and some others in the province thought enough was enough- we are done honoring foreign dictators. Not wanting to remove ourselves completely from the past, we changed our name to Benito. Due to the decades long association of our province with All Things Italian, we think we have some amount of italianized Talossan culture. This is, of course, not true. We can't have a culture without people being involved. And we've never had people involved. So it's time to usher in an entirely new culture with a full name change, breaking away from our dictator-inspired Italian 'heritage' and embracing something a little more benign and a little more representative of our people and wishes for the future. Yes, but the new connection to Benedetto XVI would serve to exorcise the old connections and make them harmless. People are still going to see 'Ben' and think 1) Beninto Mussolini, 2) Crazy King Ben. It doesn't matter that -edetto is attached to the end. Plus, I think a lot of citizens would take offense at us honoring a both a foreign ruler and religious leader.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 16, 2012 10:27:51 GMT -6
Selva de Grentza rolls off the tongue quite nicely...
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 16, 2012 9:09:52 GMT -6
Hey no problem! I respect the party standing by their platform. I knew I jumped in late.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 15, 2012 23:35:56 GMT -6
I still think you should go with the full form of Benito: Benedetto. That way you don't lose the allusions to "Ben" and "Mussolini", but you don’t celebrate them either. It will also delight the CeR. I think many of us do want to lose the allusions to Ben and Mussolini, however. [quote author=ugot board=mussolini thread=6901 post=76664 time=1342387464 I like it, (not completely phonoaesthetically pleasant for my hear)[/quote] Isn't that the truth! haha If anything, we can maintain Talossan spelling but Italianze our pronunciation due to the "historical influx of Italians in our province" so its "CHAR-cost-uh" unstead of "KYAR-cost-uh".
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 15, 2012 23:31:07 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure it doesn't. The OrgLaw doesn't specify the exact form of legislature provinces must have (unicameral, bicameral, etc.), how long terms need to be, and stuff like that. I just says that provinces can hold elections at the same time as the national government, which, thinking about it, is a terrible organizational decision- you're switching out every elected official in an entire country at the same time...talk about an easy way to destabilize things or start a revolution!.
Don't view my proposal as a deletion of our legislature, but rather an expansion.
We simply don't need representatives in a province that is so small, and there's no reason why we can't directly represent ourselves as individual citizens. Direct democracy can work for our province at the current point in time. I do foresee a day sometime in our future when we hold our last Forum by electing representatives to carry the wishes of their constituents to a provincial parliament, but that day is not here yet.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 15, 2012 23:25:58 GMT -6
I'd like to throw my name out as an MRPT representative.
Things I wish to propose: -self-representation for every individual in a legislative body called the "Provincial Forum" as a means to increase provincial activity
-cultural overhaul of the province: renaming the province, cantons, capital city, and government positions, creating a new flag, etc. Choosing names that are sufficiently Talossan while reflecting either our cultural history or geography. I would propose geographical terms for our province name and canton names, but historical/cultural terms for cities
-defining the territory for our cantons and assigning citizens to them, if anything just for the fact that we could say "CANTON, PROVINCE NAME" in our Witt profiles rather than just "PROVINCE NAME"
-other things not currently coming to mind
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 15, 2012 14:24:08 GMT -6
Okay, I like Cjarcosta. (Forgive me, just being silly now, as I am wont to do...anyway could we combine Cjovan and Cjara somehow?) (There is a "Lynx Avenue" in Milwaukee, unfortunately it doesn't seem to be in Benito Proper.) If we get around to redesigning our flag, we could have a lynx wielding an oaken bedpost on it. Cjarvana?!Cjarvanacosta? Yeah, but oaks, forests, and parks actually directly relate to the geography of our province. We can always reserve cjarvana as a nickname or something for a since "cjar" (oak) is still in the name, even though it means lynx. It'd make a great sports team- The Cjarcosta Cjarvanas. Oak-river-bank Lynxes. Or use it as a canton name, since we have two of those.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 15, 2012 14:10:22 GMT -6
We can make this a great province, and we will!
Three cheers for Senator Taiwos!
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 15, 2012 13:50:27 GMT -6
Or we could combine oak + coast and make Cjarcosta. The <cj> digraph is pretty cool in terms of digraphs.
Then we get the river and the oak forest all in one word.
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