EM Vürinalt
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 15, 2012 13:05:08 GMT -6
I like the name for oak-grove: Carica. It could make a fine name.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 15, 2012 13:04:00 GMT -6
Yeah, which is why the Maestro, or whatever we call our executive if we rename our province, reserves the right to convene a parliament if direct democracy gets too unwieldy.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 15, 2012 12:34:32 GMT -6
The big trouble there is that our geography—being along the river, possessing Riverside High School and Riverside Park — most strongly suggests the provincial name of, er, Fiova. Not necessarily. If you look at Milwaukee streetnames that are in our province, you also see a lot of things referring to forests, oak, or wood: Oak Leaf Trail Oakland Ave Kennwood Blvd Linnwood Ave If you look at Talossan words for various geographical things in Benito: Oak- cjar Oak grove- carica Forest/woods- selva Tree- arvour Leaf- föglha Trail- sliet River bank- costa You could make compounds too: Cjarcosta, Selvacosta, etc. On Google maps, the park that is on our province is the only heavily forested one in Talossa, so drawing something off of trees would make sense. Our park is on a river, so something relating to river banks could make sense too, especially since we had a canton that was called 'Riverside' for a long time.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 15, 2012 9:08:40 GMT -6
I came up with this radical idea the other day:
Since our province has less than 15 active citizens, and as a way to promote more active citizenry in our own province, what if we just did away with the Provincial Chancellery and made our legislative branch 100% direct from the people?
Every month, we hold a Forum where people can discuss policies they'd like to see enacted, and at the end of the month vote on everything as a referendum.
Then new citizens who come into our province can be immediately engaged in our politics without having to navigate around a legislative body that, for all intents and purposes, is too extreme for a political body so small.
A representative body like the Provincial Chancellery, with its 11 seats, is overkill for a province with less than 15 active members..
Our legislative process could look like: - First Monday of the Month at midnight, open the Provincial Forum. - Third Monday of the Month at midnight, close the Provincial Forum. - Fourth Monday of the Month at midnight, begin voting. - Final day of the month, close voting.
Legislation would be proposed in weeks 1 and 2.
In week 3, the final versions of bills would be submitted by Wednesday at midnight and formally presented by Friday so citizens can have ample time to read them and make informed decisions.
Votes occur in week 4.
Any citizen of Benito is able to submit legislation and vote on legislation. Laws are passed in the legislature if at least 30% of the total population votes (if not a whole number, round down. That means right now, only 7 people need to vote), and with at least 51% voting PER.
Sure, only 7 people would need to vote. That's barely different than the number of people who would be in the Provincial Chancellery right? That is correct, however, in this proposed system, any citizen may "jump right in", without having to appeal to a representative.
I think by embracing this form of direct democracy, our citizenry has a reason to become active, because everyone can fully participate in our provincial politics. It would be a good place for new citizens to try on their political shoes before taking on the Cosa, and, new citizens who arrive in the middle of a legislative term would still be able to take part- they'd just need to wait for the opening of the next Forum.
The powers of the Executive Branch remain unchanged except that the Maestro is elected by the people during the first month of the legislative process instead of the Provincial Chancellery. The Maestro also formally opens and closes each Forum. The Maestro could convene a Provincal Chancellery in emergency situations where circumstances inhibit the fluid functioning of a direct democracy.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 15, 2012 1:37:42 GMT -6
Why use people to name territories? Like ^ I'd be more than willing to use geography too.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 12, 2012 23:03:52 GMT -6
We can't just ignore our history here though and create Our Own Fantasy Province.
I really like the Cjovana idea and would be willing to run with that. It still ties, in some way, to our history, but it also ushers in a new era at the same time, and it is sufficiently Talossan enough.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 12, 2012 14:56:06 GMT -6
It's just orthography. Diacritics that mark stress are only used in places where words have unusual stress, rather than all over the place. A few consonant clusters were simplified, but pronunciation is identical.
At least, that's my understanding.
Don't take me the wrong way on this, but I find it kind of ironic that the ZRTers are so progressive in their political stances with regards to the Monarchy, but are so willing to hold on to language conventions set down by Mad King Ben himself.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 12, 2012 12:27:50 GMT -6
Why honour one man's athletic achievements, when we could honour many people's great contributions to the world and a history that can be rhetorically shoehorned to sound similar to our Province's? This is a fantastic proposal. I love it. I would make the noun feminine though, since most countries in romance languages are feminine, so something like Cjovana.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 12, 2012 4:53:38 GMT -6
I certainly support our Italian compatriots. What, though, would you suggest, and would you be okay with Talossifying it?
I think one last, final name change to break fully with our unfortunate authoritarian past is absolutely necessary. I am willing to support something that is still Italian influenced, but I also beg people to see the necessity of making our province Talossan, not Italian.
That goes for the name of our province and its institutions, a new flag, etc.
Why do we need to rely on a culture forced upon us by a Crazy Old Man years ago? Why not create our own?
We aren't Italians, we are Talossans!
If anything, we can throw 'Italian Fest' in our province someday, to hearken back to our green, white and red past.
But it's time to ditch the white and just be green and red.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 10, 2012 23:32:29 GMT -6
I would be more than willing to throw my support behind a Lumbarda province.
So...when's the campaigning start?
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 10, 2012 14:09:13 GMT -6
I think we should Talossify it though: Lumbarda (lung+barda, and then some linguistic assimilation thrown in for good measure) or something like that.
Another timeless Lombardi quote: "What the hell's goin on out thea?!"
As a Packers Fan and Owner, I am happy with our association with Wisconsin's most beloved Italian.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 10, 2012 13:18:41 GMT -6
I would, however, suggest that if we change our province name, we should make it Talossan.Much like Fiôvâ? :-) Yes, exactly like Fiova, in fact. I admire the choice of the name and I think it is the most attractively administrated of provinces thus far in the Kingdom- it has a Talossan name, it has a fantastic flag, and it's active. It's Talossan. It doesn't need some other identity to grab on to in order to make it something. It has a self-defined and self-develop[ed/ing] identity that makes it unique. Hm. Lombardi is a nonsense noun, too similar to the centrenorthern Italian region Lombardia (the region with Milan). Lombardi literally means "inhabitants of the Lombardia". What about Savoia? Lombardi is also the name of the greatest coach in the 'Florencia' Packers' history (American Football- actual name, Green Bay Packers). Since the Packers are Talossa's official (American) Football team, the name makes a bit of sense. If you look at street names in Milwaukee of where our province is located a few stand out: Cambridge Ave right on the river, Oakland Street, Locust Street, and Maryland Avenue. I think Oakland would be cool to go off of, which would be "Carica" in Talossan (Oak grove).
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jul 10, 2012 10:35:47 GMT -6
I'd be okay with a name switch. I think that Lombardi is admirable, even though the Packers play in Florencia and not in our province.
I would, however, suggest that if we change our province name, we should make it Talossan.
I can't necessarily name any suggestions right of the top of my head, but I do think that it is time for us to part ways with our honor to this dictator. The history will still be there for people to see, but I think in the interest of freedom, righteousness, and Talossanity, we should finally break ties with our more authoritarian past.
We can keep our province 'Italian' themed or influenced, for example, by picking an Italian person, city, building, etc. as inspiration, but I do think whatever we chose to do should be Talossified (changed into the Talossan language).
While it does mean spurning our 'Italian' (read- authoritarian-inspired) history, I think that it is time to Talossify our province, get rid of the heavy, clear Italian influences that link us to the Province of Mussolini past, and embrace a more welcoming, benign future.
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jun 26, 2012 23:16:37 GMT -6
Greetings everyone.
I remember when I was a new citizen, and I've been around for quite some time. Of course, I do have a nasty habit of disappearing for some time and then showing up again.
So- do you guys have anything you want to know about Benito, any ideas of how to get our province going, etc.?
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Jun 26, 2012 13:58:06 GMT -6
I look forward to coming up with something in the coming weeks!
I'll be quite busy with university work for the next few weeks, but after that, I really hope to get this process started.
For anyone who isn't familiar with the project:
The Scribery will be developing a design for official publications of various governmental institutions, so they have a recognizable, easily readable format. This includes headers and footers, formatting styles, font sizes and colors, etc., for both English and Talossan documents.
Basically, it's an attempt to make things formal and standard.
An offshoot of this project, once completed, will be to create a PDF file of the Organic Law and any passed statues in the new and proper formatting, in both English, and Talossan (if/when available).
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