ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!?

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

The Opposition questioned this Government's ability and commitment with regard to raising the level of activity.

On Saturday, there were three pages of posts on the Wittenberg "latest 59", and smaller increments over the next two days.

As the Governor of Florencia, Colonel Mximo Carbonèl , correctly said, no-one gave a damn about Florencian government, let alone Florencians, until the current Government made an initiative.

You're welcome.

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

I definitely think any time the Avocat-Xheneral quits so that he can swear at people more, while at the same time the results of an activity survey arrive to report on why people are drifting away, it will generate a lot of discussion. I do not recommend repeating these particular strategies, but we're certainly a lot more lively around here than we have been in a while. Plus there's more off-Witt activity, too, which is great!

I can say, with no mixed feelings, that it is better when more Talossans are doing Talossa, and this Government has helped inspire some folks. Well done

[Viteu Marcianüs]

Jul 29, 2019 17:26:51 GMT -6 Sir Alexandreu Davinescu said:

I definitely think any time the Avocat-Xheneral quits so that he can swear at people more, while at the same time the results of an activity survey arrive to report on why people are drifting away, it will generate a lot of discussion. I do not recommend repeating these particular strategies, but we're certainly a lot more lively around here than we have been in a while. Plus there's more off-Witt activity, too, which is great!

I can say, with no mixed feelings, that it is better when more Talossans are doing Talossa, and this Government has helped inspire some folks. Well done

Source: Elise Huther Art

Alex, you intentionally mislead people and lie. You insult people worse than I ever could, but obfuscate the insult with clever vernacular. You are offended because I dare curse, while I'm offended that you countenance and engage in utter deceitfulness. You've condoned homophobic comments and yourself engaged in transphobic behavior. So people can think me crass, but I think their moral compass is severely off, and in want of an actual foundation. Alex, unlike you, I don't need to lie.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

It's crucial to remember that "funny fights" are an important part of Talossan culture. We once had a political party devoted to making Ben Madison King and Bob Murphy Seneschál, which would in the current context be like making AD King and V Seneschál. As long as it doesn't go, y'know, too far.

[Audrada Rôibeardét]

Sigh...here we go again.

Most fights are scheduled for twelve rounds.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Jul 29, 2019 18:02:33 GMT -6 Audrada Rôibeardét said:

Most fights are scheduled for twelve rounds.

I think Talossa is less like boxing and more like pro-wrestling, where feuds can go on for decades but also alliances can switch at breathtaking speed.

I remember when V was a monarchist and despised me.

[Viteu Marcianüs]

And how!

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

So there you go, in 5 years AD will be a staunch Republican and teaming up with V to fight crime or something. And they'll be sworn enemies of...

(spins roulette wheel)

... Audrada Roibeardet?!?

[Audrada Rôibeardét]

Did you forget that I was a pro wrestler?

I have no problem being a heel. I think in this case I'm a mid-carder. Looks like I'm jobbing again.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Seriously, back in Penguinea I wrote a couple of pieces of fan-fiction where Penguinean political debates were turned into Celebrity Deathmatch-type bouts and I was the Vince McMahon figure. And there was a running gag of "if you think this is bad, you should see the Talossan fed!"

[Iac Marscheir]

Jul 29, 2019 17:44:40 GMT -6 Viteu Marcianüs said:

Alex, you intentionally mislead people and lie. You insult people worse than I ever could, but obfuscate the insult with clever vernacular. You are offended because I dare curse, while I'm offended that you countenance and engage in utter deceitfulness. You've condoned homophobic comments and yourself engaged in transphobic behavior. So people can think me crass, but I think their moral compass is severely off, and in want of an actual foundation. Alex, unlike you, I don't need to lie.

I think the intention behind discouraging cursing in certain circles is to create a standard for expressing oneself. It's not moral in nature.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

As to swearing, I think:

a) I'd rather have someone effing and jeffing at me while expressing themselves honestly, than using "polite language" to spread innuendo, falsehoods and back-handed compliments, because I'd rather have an open foe than a sneaky one;

b) but in general, I prefer to minimise the use of F-bombs and the like, because when you do use them in extreme circumstances, they have more effect. This famous contribution by a Green Party member to a Labour Party opponent in the Irish legislature embodies what I mean:



But seriously: my preferred rule would be "all swearing has to be done in Talossan", so cut your hutschînd miéidâ out.

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

Jul 29, 2019 17:44:40 GMT -6 Viteu Marcianüs said:

Alex, you intentionally mislead people and lie.

Pretty usually, your examples of my atrocious falsehoods are based purely in your fever-dreams about my motivations. If I criticize a major flaw in a bill of yours, it's because I just want to destroy all that is pure and good, and I am a terrible villain for not admitting it.

Indeed, you have a tendency to gin up these huge passion plays in your own imagination, where you are a brave truth-teller who's willing to speak truth to power, boldly shattering norms in service of a greater truth. In this imagination, the king is not a fairly busy and oft-absent guy who has the country's best interests at heart and delights in rules and legalities (the same interests which drew him to Talossa and which enabled him to help lead the resistance against King Ben, driving him out). It's frankly a little embarrassing to watch, because it leads you to make these hyperdramatic posts like the one memorialized in your signature.

When you get your teeth in something, you never seem to be able to let it go, and it gets in your way of seeing what's really going on. If someone disagrees with you about something, it can't be an honest difference of opinion -- even if they explain what they're thinking and they have a long history of thoughtful helpfulness! No, they're evil, since they disagree with you.

Gluc is a liar when he doesn't agree with you:

Apr 13, 2019 8:20:43 GMT -6 Viteu Marcianüs said:

Apr 13, 2019 3:25:47 GMT -6 Glüc da Dhi said:

I think it's pretty obvious that XVI.12 refers to loss of citizenship, not temporary loss of access to an internet forum. Am I a liar?

At the time, most Talossans seemed to agree with the action. Other have argued the Ziu should temporarily ban members from the hopper when needed. Are they all lying?

It's not obvious. And I said it results in effective expulsion. So yes, Gluc, you are lying.

Ian is personally attacking you when he doesn't agree with you:

Apr 13, 2019 13:01:00 GMT -6 Viteu Marcianüs said:

I won't engage this discussion with either of you anymore, considering not once have you condemned the liar John or his patent misrepresentation as you have attacked me.

Gluc and Ian, you have now made it personal. Great job. Let's have fun. :-D

The king is trying to ignore the law when he doesn't agree with you:

Jul 25, 2019 21:30:16 GMT -6 Viteu Marcianüs said:

King John Completely inappropriate. You filed a petition. The Attorney General defends the Chancery and the Government. The Cort has yet to intervene. The Chancery need only draw its attention when required. And the mere allegations that Florencia has not approved the Constitution is insufficient. The Chancery needn't stop the referendum until such time as the Cort tells it to. You don't get to assert your interpretation as binding. 

You. Are. Not. The. Law. 
You. Are. Not. Above. The. Law. 

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Well, whatever. Clearly not going to change your mind about anything, since if I said that the sky was blue you'd send up three astronauts, a cosmonaut, and a monkey with a camera just to be sure. Just maybe think about this a bit? You have to know that your anger clouds your judgment at this point. You've had to go back and apologize once you cooled down. Is it possible that you're not the glorious hero -- that you and I and the king and everyone are just folks doing their best, often misunderstood and frequently disagreeing? That we have different beliefs, but no one is seeking to "lie to everyone" or destroy the country with tyranny?

[Iac Marscheir]

I'm not commenting on any specific person, Talossan or cestour with this, but if things could work that way, the US Congress and many other legislatures would operate at lightspeed compared to right now.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Jul 29, 2019 21:43:00 GMT -6 Sir Alexandreu Davinescu said:

your examples of my atrocious falsehoods are based purely in your fever-dreams about my motivations.

(goes on about V's internal state of mind for 6 paragraphs)