Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 1, 2014 22:29:07 GMT -6
Overall % of the vote: RUMP 38.8%, MRPT 22.3%, ZRT 15.5%, Libs 9.7%, Prog 6.8%, PC 5.8%, TWP 0.97%
% of public vote: RUMP 52.2%, MRPT 19.6%, ZRT 8.7%, Libs 4.3%, Progs 8.7%, PC 4.3%, TWP 2.2% % of secret vote: RUMP 28.1%, MRPT 24.6%, ZRT 21.1%, Libs 14.0%, Progs 5.3%, PC 7.0%, TWP 0.0%
Exit poll predictions: RUMP 26.3%, MRPT 21.05%, ZRT 18.42%, Libs 13.16%, Progs 10.53%, PC 10.53%, TWP 0.0%
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 1, 2014 22:30:34 GMT -6
Given the above, the exit poll seems to have tracked the secret ballot tolerably well. Perhaps next time I'll add an Exit Poll to the Witt thread vote counts, and see if that is a better predictor.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Sept 2, 2014 0:24:01 GMT -6
Congratulations to all the folks who won seats and commiserations to all those who lost some. Looks like things are starting to change in Talossa after all.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 2, 2014 0:33:30 GMT -6
And these Republicans* that you spit on As they try to change their worlds Are immune to your consultations They're quite aware of what they're going through
(* and reformist monarchists)
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Sept 2, 2014 2:36:48 GMT -6
Clearly the "write-in" experiment for non-Fiôvân Senäts votes is a failure. A disturbing number of people "voted" in provinces which weren't electing a Senator, and a spoiled vote may have caused a tie in Vuode. This is why the incoming government must make sure that the SoS is under strong scrutiny in his job. MPF likes to do things his way, even when his way doesn't work. Perhaps the SoS should delegate all Senator elections to the provincial governments next time round. But in any case, a "write-in" ballot must NOT be used next time. I will simply ignore the votes where there was no race, obviously. Many of the votes occurred before there were party endorsements on the ballot. For the next election, all party endorsements will be there, and I will probably put a drop-down for it, so that they can only select citizens of that province. However, I would like to tell the ZRT party leader that I did the elections to the senate the same way as I did them the last time, using the same verbiage, and that not a single person complained. If the voters cannot follow instructions, I can improve the ballot, but implying that there needs to be more scrutiny on my work is bordering Libel and I demand an apology from the leader of the ZRT, after-all, the Chancery is not responsible for how voters fill in their ballots.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Sept 2, 2014 2:38:39 GMT -6
Clearly the "write-in" experiment for non-Fiôvân Senäts votes is a failure. A disturbing number of people "voted" in provinces which weren't electing a Senator, and a spoiled vote may have caused a tie in Vuode. This is why the incoming government must make sure that the SoS is under strong scrutiny in his job. MPF likes to do things his way, even when his way doesn't work. Perhaps the SoS should delegate all Senator elections to the provincial governments next time round. But in any case, a "write-in" ballot must NOT be used next time. I agree. We have took a massive leap in making our elections electronic with this database, so I don't see why we can't have the ballots programmed in some way with drop down boxes or check boxes like the ones used to fill out online forms. This goes for all the elections going on (Senate, Cosa, Province). It would eliminate ambiguity in trying to decide what a voter's intention actually was. I proposed it for the 46th Cosa, but this would need a change in the electoral law since at this moment, you can vote for ANYONE you want for the Senate, including entering a party name...
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 2, 2014 2:39:06 GMT -6
No it's not. It's fair comment.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Sept 2, 2014 2:43:19 GMT -6
No it's not. It's fair comment. No, it is not. It is implying that I am not trustworthy because some people couldn't bother to fill-in a proper candidate name and I can't stand for that. You also implied that it's because I want to do things MY WAY. When I simply do not have an alternative under current law which is technologically simple enough to work under the current laws. I expect a retraction within 24 hours or I am consulting my attorney and we'll see each other in court. I am done with baseless accusations on my integrity.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 2, 2014 2:45:15 GMT -6
I'm sorry you're offended, esteemed SoS, and I wish I had chosen my words with greater care. But they are fair comment and thus not libellous.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Sept 2, 2014 2:58:13 GMT -6
I'm sorry you're offended, esteemed SoS, and I wish I had chosen my words with greater care. But they are fair comment and thus not libellous. Let me get this straight, You think it is fair to: 1) Accuse me to doing things MY WAY when in fact, I do not have any alternatives available to me by law? 2 ) Pretend that voters badly using a write-in is a sign that *I* must be under more scruteny? If your comments had been fair, you would have talked about problems with the ballot, not the guy who made the ballot. You would have talked about the procedure, not about my integrity. Your comment was libelous: when there was an alleged problem, you decided to imply improper behavior on the administrator of the election when the errors were made by a third-party (the voters). Considering that you have added to the discussion, I am now done talking to you on the subject. My attorney will continue from this point on unless I get a proper retraction.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Sept 2, 2014 3:14:49 GMT -6
Dude, it's a comment on the job not on your character. The Secretary of State is a public official and it's right for us to consider what the right amount of scrutiny required for the role without you crying murder and threatening legal action.
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Sept 2, 2014 3:15:17 GMT -6
Turnout was pretty disappointing again. I really thought we would improve on last time, but we didn't. It looks like final turnout (as a percentage of eligible voters) is probably a fraction of a percent higher than last time, when you account for the facts that returned ballots include one from someone who is not an eligible voter (Cresti Newton, who voted "present") and that the list of citizens who did not vote includes two people who renounced their citizenship and therefore also are not registered voters (Ross and Wordon).
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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on Sept 2, 2014 3:45:23 GMT -6
Turnout was pretty disappointing again. I really thought we would improve on last time, but we didn't. It looks like final turnout (as a percentage of eligible voters) is probably a fraction of a percent higher last time, when you account for the facts that returned ballots include one from someone who is not an eligible voter (Cresti Newton, who voted "present") and that the list of citizens who did not vote includes two people who renounced their citizenship and therefore also are not registered voters (Ross and Wordon). In the republic the turnout used to be much better, but we relied on sending reminders to voters who hadn't voted. Reminders are ESSENTIAL.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 2, 2014 3:46:59 GMT -6
Then we ought to make a law to that effect.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Sept 2, 2014 3:48:49 GMT -6
Turnout was pretty disappointing again. I really thought we would improve on last time, but we didn't. It looks like final turnout (as a percentage of eligible voters) is probably a fraction of a percent higher last time, when you account for the facts that returned ballots include one from someone who is not an eligible voter (Cresti Newton, who voted "present") and that the list of citizens who did not vote includes two people who renounced their citizenship and therefore also are not registered voters (Ross and Wordon). In the republic the turnout used to be much better, but we relied on sending reminders to voters who hadn't voted. Reminders are ESSENTIAL. I did send reminders to vote during the election to all who didn't vote. The last one was 3 days ago...
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