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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 31, 2008 21:57:02 GMT -6
As I will be going to the US for Conan O'Briens farewell shows in January-February, I was wondering where exactly the Talossan Embassy is - if I might pop in and see what the Embassy looks like
Kind regards,
Tony Weckström President of the DPD
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 30, 2008 23:30:54 GMT -6
As you DEMAND to know what was said to me during my dismissal. The exact line I believe was you are "fired for cause". And I would face criminal charges (also not a reason given for that). That is all I know. I believe that these things MUST be PUBLIC in a democracy, so I took the matter public. I have repeatedly asked and inquired for the exact REASONS why I have been "terminated" or "fired" - but that is of no matter right now, as the Prime-minister may do so as he pleases. The matter that most irritates me in this whole issue is the part of the CRIMINAL CHARGES. Now they say I will be charged with a crime or crimes - but for what? Nothing has been told to me about this. That I find irritating and the whole secrecy behind this matter would make anyone irritated. A man/woman should be let known EXACTLY WHAT he or she is being charged with. What crime? When has the crime happened? So I make it plain now to all: I am not angry with the government or the prime-minister. I am irritated at the manner this is being handled. I am not mentally or otherwise impaired, and this does not effect my decisions in the Cosa in any way - except perhaps my faith in the current government, of which every Cosa member may vote a vote of no confidence each month - which is my intention, after these kinds of secret charges and innuendos. Tim: 1) Reporting to the Seneschal and exercising power on his behalf doesn't actually mean serving at his pleasure. He is the team manager, not the company president. But I raised that as a technicality. S:reu Weckstrom has been dismissed by the Crown, exercising its power through the Seneschal. 2) The public has every right to demand information that is in its interest, from whomever it likes. Given the hullabaloo, and given Weckstrom's personal preference, and given the slurs on the characters of various participants in this affair, I (as a member of the public) would say it is in the public interest. Therefore I demand that Weckstrom publicises what he was told; or I demand he shut up about it; or I demand he call the Seneschal a liar. At that stage it is in the public interest for the Seneschal to publish the contents of the dismissal, as I do not believe there would be any threat pertaining to national security in that document. And I do believe that publicly stating that a case was being prepared against S:reu Weckstrom - thus publicly impugning him - whilst not stating what it was about is poor behaviour. Just because Weckstrom has humiliated himself horrendously does not mean we can act improperly because no-one actually supports him. As for his Cosa seats, that is a separate issue. Citizens voted for his party, and unless he were declared mentally unfit for duty, I do not believe it is proper to question his "ability to function as a Member of the Cosa" in the way you are. Welcome to democracy. Kind regards,
Tony WeckströmPresident of the DPD Ex-Royal Ambassador
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 28, 2008 14:00:48 GMT -6
Not to be the negative party here again, BUT the DPD and myself - see it would seem to be almost NO chance of Talossa joining the UN or the UNPO. The UNPO has for example these criteria to be filled and answered: a) a brief history of the Nation or People;
b) the reasons for the desire to become a Participant in the Organization;
c) adequate evidence of the recognition of the Representative Body as an organ of leadership by the people it claims to represent;
d) a formal declaration of adhesion to the present Covenant and the principle of non-violence;
e) evidence of the democratic character of the Representative Body’s leadership structure;
f) the statute of the Representative Body;
g) the latest annual financial- and activity report of the Representative Body.
h) payment of the application feeCan Talossa complete these application requirements, not to mention part H, the payment of the application fee. It seems when there was discussion on minting coins, it seemed like a big obstacle - will Talossan citizens be willing to pay for the application fee now - not even knowing how much it is. I would speculate it to be in many thousands of dollars if not more... I therefor call on our esteemed government, and the Prime-minister in particular to answer these points, as well as the our esteemed Ministers in charge of Foreign Affairs and our Finances.Kind regards, Tony WeckströmEx-Ambassador to Finland President of the DPD Accused Criminal (charges not made public to anyone) I've always preferred the UNPO route. Identifying ourselves first and foremost as a people and a nation rather than as a state, it seems more incumbent on us to become a culturally discrete unit.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 28, 2008 12:03:46 GMT -6
It is not a matter of anger - more of irritation.Should someone charge you with a crime, you would want to know exactly what crime you are being charged with (supposedly anyone would) - right? One would want to know whom has charged you with a crime. What that crime is? The subject and contents of the crime. I am not saying the PM didn't have the legal right to remove me from office (Ambassadorial position), but my irritation is with this legal system that does not allow the accused to even know what he/she is being accused of!!! In what country/nation is this a standard? Let us see: Myanmar, North Korea, Iran etc... Is Talossa now to be compared to these countries? ...and suggestions to leaving the Cosa because of my irritation with the government, is just a further insult. My loyalty lies with Talossa, and now it just seems I am in so called political opposition, which most democracies have - which is the basis to democracy and parliamentarism. My priorities are to Talossa, not the PM and his decisions. I vote based on the facts of the proposed laws, they have nothing to do with undermining Talossa. The only thing I do not accept is giving a vote of confidence to this current administration, as long as the current PM holds office. Is it really so much to ask of EXACTLY WHAT I AM BEING CRIMINALLY ACCUSED OF?!?!That is all I want to know! As I said before, I would not accept a governmental position offered by this government, so this is no plea in anger to be re-instated as Ambassador - I simply want to know what I am being accused of! I see this as a basic right of any individual; to know what one is being charged with - and shouldn't that be clear without having to repeatedly ask about it???Tony, You are not entitled to an explanation of your dismissal, none of us would be if asked to vacate our offices. As to the charges, the government has filed them, when they are accepted by the Cort you'll hear something new. What you are doing here is harmful to the Kingdom itself. You seem to be reacting out of rage more than reason since you are posting "Demands" instead of privately contacting the government with inquiries. Perhaps you should consider leaving the Cosa until your criminal charges are resolved. It is possible your present anger will adversely affect your judgment in governmental matters.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 28, 2008 4:30:36 GMT -6
Reminds me of Saddam Hussein's regime. No trial, just a sentence... Would be prudent to even name the charge. Tony WeckströmPresident of the DPD The government has no power to force the Cort's hand to move faster; they are currently considering another case. When charges are formally accepted by that body, I have no doubt that it will be done in public as has always been the case. As for the matter of any future positions for you: I haven't spoken with the Seneschal on the matter, but I personally rather doubt we will have anything for you at any point in the future, especially considering your continued behavior when it comes to this matter. I think I've already exhausted all variations on "we appreciate your past service" the last few times, so that is going to have to suffice, MC Weckstrom.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 28, 2008 3:39:14 GMT -6
It is one of the basic points of human rights for a person to KNOW exactly what he/she is being charged with in a court case.
ALL that I know from the "government" is that I have been fired and removed from my post as Ambassador to Finland, and the reason was "for cause" - NOT explaining what this "cause" is!
Also, in most Western CIVILIZED worlds, even when an ambassador is recalled from service, he/she is not fired, and ordered to relinquish the title of "Ambassador", he or she, simply does not have an appointment to another country - but the title stays.
From the beginning I believed in Talossa - now my views, totally influenced by the new PM is that Talossa's government is a close-minded, totalitarian and quite frankly a rude government.
What is the point here any more? One will not see the charges laid out in front of one??? One will not know the reasons for dismissal in more words than "for cause".
Why has the new regime acted in this manner to a servant of the government, whom has never spoken ill, or in any other way hindered or betrayed the government?
As the accused I DEMAND to know the charges against me, and I DEMAND them to be public for all to see. Let the court make their ruling, and let the people make their own.
If the government or courts cannot make public the accusations, then shame on them, and that would be a tremendous blow to the integrity of the government and the courts of Talossa.
As long as this PM is in power, I refuse to take any position he may appoint me to (although I don't expect him to do so under any circumstance), as a member of the Cosa this government will ALWAYS receive a Vote of No Confidence from the DPD party.
Some may say I complain for nothing - but when being accused of a CRIME, one naturally want's to know exactly of WHAT CRIME one is being accused? ...and does Talossa adhere to the principle, that an accused is innocent until PROVEN guilty? Or is innocense something that the accused has to prove?
Kind regards,
Tony Weckström Ex-Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary President of the DPD party
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 26, 2008 13:09:14 GMT -6
Case of WHAT?!
What is the charge?!
Removal from office without even giving a reason, other than what you wrote "for cause", without explaining what the cause is, is no explanation at all...
Should not also the citizens of Talossa have a right to know why their Ambassador was fired???I have been in dialog with Judges to be sure that the court is able and will agree to properly take the case. You were removed from office, really it may be the best action to take overall rather than continue to trouble the courts. This is still in active discussion in the Kingdom's legal council.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 26, 2008 10:28:38 GMT -6
Still waiting for the CRIMINAL CHARGE that has been filed... ....and YES, I am anxious to know what exactly I am being accused of, and that would seem to be a right of anyone who is charged with a crime to know - of what he/she is being charged. This is outrageous, and strange that nothing is being done on the matter! Tony WeckströmPresident of the DPD Correct - simply a shameful system of justice! Just when is my criminal charges to be handled by the courts? As the accused, am I not even to know what I am being accused of? This is not a very good legal system we have, if the accused must wait and wait, not hear what he his accused of, and be fired from his job because of a criminal charge - if that was the reason. I still do not understand the reasons for my removal from offfice. All that was said, was that I am removed from office for CAUSE. What cause??? Kind regards, Tony WeckströmPresident of the DPD Are you so anxious to have legal action taken against you that you deride the very system than can save you? If I were you, I'd be hoping that if I was really quiet, everyone might forget about the charge and it would just go away. As for your dismissal from service, "your" title and service in general was at the pleasure of the PM. It was not your right to be an ambassador, it was your privilege. Who knows, you might earn that privilege again. But at this rate, perhaps not... Bottom line, the PM decided that you were unfit for service at this time.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 5, 2008 12:07:05 GMT -6
Before passing judgment or how we should vote on this bill, do we actually pass the criteria laid out by the UN? Do we own actual real land (independent from the government that rules the country on which this land exists)? Do we have our citizens actually living on that land? Are we recognized by even one actual UN member state? Basically this would be a great thing for Talossa, but I fear that our application would be rejected unless we are recognized as an independent sovereign nation by another UN member country. Kind regards, Tony WeckströmPresident of the DPD With the intent of helping Talossa make a greater splash on the international community, I here present my effort at a bill whereby the Ziu can approve of the obligations and responsibilities of being a member of the United Nations. After this has been legislatively approved, the government can take steps to appeal for entrance into the United Nations, taking our rightful place in the international community. The last time I sponsored this bill and it was up for debate, some legislators opted not to "risk it;" there was a perception that it would be unwise to attract any attention to the nation. I felt and still feel the opposite: it is absolutely in the best interests of the nation to at least begin to attempt to join the community of nations as an equal, even if they reject our application out of hand. I am resubmitting for further debate. The UN charter is here: www.un.org/aboutun/charter/General info about the UN is here: www.un.org/aboutun/ The International Community Entrance Bill, Iteration XIV I.C.E. 9
WHEREAS, as an independent and sovereign nation possessing of a long and proud heritage, Talossa merits a place among the ranks of other states of equal status, and WHEREAS, our beautiful country deserves to have its voice heard within the international dialog of the world in order to help promote Talossan interests abroad, and WHEREAS, the organization known as the United Nations is the international organization of the greatest prominence, and WHEREAS, entrance into the aforementioned United Nations is predicated upon our willingness to accept and uphold the responsibilities and obligations delineated for a signatory nation within the document known as the "Charter of the United Nations," and WHEREAS, the stated purposes of the UN are peace, friendly relations, international cooperation, and harmony, and Talossa also believes in these things, so there is no conflict but rather an affirmation of Talossan values, and WHEREAS, the practical obligations that would be imposed upon us by UN membership are the minimal ones of an annual fee, agreeing to pacific resolution of international disputes, provision of troops or facilities if needed, participation in the International Court of Justice in the case of international legal disputes, and other such things easily met by our burgeoning state, and WHEREAS, the benefits of joining the international community in an active manner far outweigh the negligible fees, which would be calculated as a percentage from our GNP, as well as the other items of obligation which would have generally already been Talossan policy anyway and thus no hardship, and WHEREAS, Talossa is desirous of embarking on a long career of vibrant international relations, rather than the sporadic and chilly attentions we currently receive, excepting of course the United States of America's kind recognition of Talossan sovereignty, and we hope that this will be the impetus behind the crystallization of a new era of international communication, THEREFORE, the Kingdom of Talossa hereby officially recognizes, supports, and endorses the ideals and goals detailed within the United Nations Charter, and that we hereby declare our intentions to join the august body of the General Assembly of the United Nations, and avows that Talossa will meet the obligations which are a part of being a member with full faith and our greatest exertions. Uréu q'estadra så: Senator Alexander Davis (M-M) EDIT: Formatting. EDIT: Slight wording change.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 5, 2008 11:28:03 GMT -6
Correct - simply a shameful system of justice! Just when is my criminal charges to be handled by the courts? As the accused, am I not even to know what I am being accused of? This is not a very good legal system we have, if the accused must wait and wait, not hear what he his accused of, and be fired from his job because of a criminal charge - if that was the reason. I still do not understand the reasons for my removal from offfice. All that was said, was that I am removed from office for CAUSE. What cause??? Kind regards, Tony WeckströmPresident of the DPD Yes... I've often said that the Cort's motto should be: "Slowly but sur... no, just slowly." Sorry Cresti! Dréu
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 4, 2008 12:26:16 GMT -6
Still waiting for the CRIMINAL CHARGE that has been filed... Seems quite strange that it should take this long! Tony WeckströmPresident of the DPD Fax received. You also mentioned that I will be facing charges in the Talossan Courts. As an accused, I would like to know the charges, or do you have some reason to not disclose that information. Tony, a criminal charge has been filed by the govt but that there's no case unless and until the Cort accepts it, and then you will be notified at that point. Until this issue is resolved you are removed from your position as an official representative of Talossa. If the post is still vacant and the government fails to fulfill it's obligation to the cort, you may seek reinstatement to the position.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Dec 1, 2008 9:57:08 GMT -6
# 39RZ6 PER # 39RZ7 PER # 39RZ8 PER # Vote of Confidence (Cosâ only) NON
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Nov 3, 2008 11:09:16 GMT -6
39RZ1: CONTRÂ 39RZ2: CONTRÂ 39RZ3: CONTRÂ 39RZ4: CONTRÂ 39RZ5: CONTRÂ VOC: NON
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Oct 31, 2008 8:39:31 GMT -6
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Oct 30, 2008 14:03:15 GMT -6
Yes, it is his right - but WHY? To ask for a new government and ministers is one thing, but appointing new ambassadors then? How many Ambassadors do we potentially have to take up the post in Finland? Now we lose an Ambassador in Finland - and thereby I will shut down the Embassy site too... Tony, Upon Lord Hooligan leaving office, he asked ALL of his ministers to offer their resignations for that the new PM might select his new government. Some resignations were accepted, some were not. The Prime Minister is tasked with appointing a Foreign Minister, according to Organic Law, the Foreign Minister may be dismissed by the PM. If you won the majority in the election and became PM, it would certainly be your right to dismiss me as Minister of Defence or any other minister, because as the new PM the task to form a new goverment falls to you. This isn't new. This is how Hooligan did it and every minister before him. You are out of line with your protesting.
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