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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Oct 30, 2008 13:06:27 GMT -6
The Prime Minister has fired the now EX Ambassador to Finland, Mr. Tony Weckström.
He has not given the Ambassador any reason to why he has chosen to do this.
The Ambassador, I, Tony Weckström, have done all that has been asked of me as your ambassador to Finland. Opened a website as a virtual embassy, which was still under construction and would have been opened any time now.
To fire an ambassador without any reason is a very serious thing. Does it seem fair that our new Prime Minister acts like a Caesar, and does what he wants with impunity?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2008 13:57:15 GMT -6
Tony,
Upon Lord Hooligan leaving office, he asked ALL of his ministers to offer their resignations for that the new PM might select his new government. Some resignations were accepted, some were not. The Prime Minister is tasked with appointing a Foreign Minister, according to Organic Law, the Foreign Minister may be dismissed by the PM.
If you won the majority in the election and became PM, it would certainly be your right to dismiss me as Minister of Defence or any other minister, because as the new PM the task to form a new goverment falls to you.
This isn't new. This is how Hooligan did it and every minister before him.
You are out of line with your protesting.
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Post by Mr. Tony Weckström on Oct 30, 2008 14:03:15 GMT -6
Yes, it is his right - but WHY? To ask for a new government and ministers is one thing, but appointing new ambassadors then? How many Ambassadors do we potentially have to take up the post in Finland? Now we lose an Ambassador in Finland - and thereby I will shut down the Embassy site too... Tony, Upon Lord Hooligan leaving office, he asked ALL of his ministers to offer their resignations for that the new PM might select his new government. Some resignations were accepted, some were not. The Prime Minister is tasked with appointing a Foreign Minister, according to Organic Law, the Foreign Minister may be dismissed by the PM. If you won the majority in the election and became PM, it would certainly be your right to dismiss me as Minister of Defence or any other minister, because as the new PM the task to form a new goverment falls to you. This isn't new. This is how Hooligan did it and every minister before him. You are out of line with your protesting. |
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Post by Cole Schneider on Oct 30, 2008 14:24:27 GMT -6
Its his right, so he doesn't have to tell you why. But that makes him seem rude, which he would seem to be right now, and i think he should have at the bare minimum told you why. Or he could have told you why, then give you time to fix it. But again, its his right.
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Oct 30, 2008 14:27:29 GMT -6
Yes, it is his right - but WHY? To ask for a new government and ministers is one thing, but appointing new ambassadors then? How many Ambassadors do we potentially have to take up the post in Finland? Now we lose an Ambassador in Finland - and thereby I will shut down the Embassy site too... It's not unheard of to have all the appointed members of a Government to step down when a new Prime Minster is appointed. It gives the new PM a chance to assign his own staff. You may very well be re-appointed to the Ambassadorship. I would not be at all surprised if I was asked to step down, so the new PM could nominate his own candidate for SoS. If so, I won't take it personal. I also won't get drunk again for a few months, just in case. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2008 15:58:42 GMT -6
All I can say is that right now, with a court case pending, I think you should focus your efforts on that. If you get the charges dropped or are otherwise acquitted, then you of course could petition the PM to reinstate you.
Of course, that will be a hard thing to argue if you keep running polls about how he is a tyrant.
Here is some food for thought...
In the State of New York, if you are charged with a felony and you hold a state license, your license is automatically suspended. You have a few days to appeal that suspension, but if you miss the window, you have a suspension until the case is decided.
So if a Doctor has his/her medical license suspended, is that the state saying we don't need more Doctors? No, it is the state recognizing that the Doctor MAY have committed some act of misconduct and we are going to let the court decide things before you go practicing medicine.
You seem to now acknowledge it is his right to dismiss you and wish to know "Why?"
How else would you have things? Should the PM be able to dismiss any cabinet minister but NOT those who serve under that minister? The Foreign Minister is part of the government the PM assembles, so if the PM wants you out, he need only appoint a Foreign Minister and give him as his first task "dismiss this ambassador."
So the right exists. This is not a matter of a violation of your rights. As a civil servant, you serve at the whim of the PM. Had the PP won the majority and taken the Prime Ministry, I could have been dismissed without cause as well. As it stands, I may still be dismissed without cause if the PM chooses to accept the resignation I offered upon the change of power from Hooligan to Ventrutx.
But don't take it so personally, we serve at the pleasure of the King and may be dismissed at any time by the PM. Not only is this his right, but it is how things have been done at every single Cosa.
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Post by Vit Caçeir on Oct 30, 2008 16:48:07 GMT -6
To fire an ambassador without any reason is a very serious thing. Does it seem fair that our new Prime Minister acts like a Caesar, and does what he wants with impunity? Perhaps there is a reason that at the present time does not require public disclosure? If you want answers for why you were fired, you should approach the one who removed you, not the public, who is pretty much just as confused as you are. As others have said, it is not an unusual thing for most/all Cabinet Ministers to resign and/or be replaced with a transition of government. Moreover, if there's criminal charges against you, there must be something fairly serious going on. The new Prime Minister has yet to do anything illegal, therefore I support his right to replace government. Perhaps his removal was a bit hasty, perhaps it was not. Either way, we'll know soon enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2008 17:00:35 GMT -6
Ugh, I hate politics. The more this particular thread drags on, the more I'm leaning toward voting yes.....
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Oct 30, 2008 21:54:25 GMT -6
Speaking for the government: the former Ambassador was informed in private as to the reasons for his dismissal. Like all officials in the government at any level, he serves at the pleasure of the Seneschal, who has seen fit to dismiss him at this time. The government has no further comment.
Alexander Davis
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Post by Owen Edwards on Oct 31, 2008 7:33:13 GMT -6
Yes, on many, many counts.
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