Iudas Levì Benjamì Request for Arms

[Iudas Levì Bentxamì]

My name is Iudas Levì Benjamì.

If it so please the Squirrel King of Arms, I request the assistance of the College in designing and obtaining arms for myself and my lawful heirs.

My favorite color is white.

[Hooligan]

From and for The Royal Talossan College of Arms

Azul Iudas --

As Squirrel King of Arms, I am pleased to accept your request for assistance in designing arms. I now charge the Penzance Pursuivant, Dean of the College, with assigning one of the Fellows of the College to provide that assistance.

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Squirrel King of Arms

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Azul !

In that I'm the Penzance Pursuivant, Dean of the College that was mentioned above.

Do you have a preference of which Fellow you would like to assist you in your Request?

[Iudas Levì Bentxamì]

I cannot say that I do. Having perused the design work of the College, they're all delightful. So is there a fellow who has a pretty clear docket?

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

I've asked the Columcille Pursuivant to take your request.

Be careful, he can be grumpy. But he's pretty good at what he does.

[Iudas Levì Bentxamì]

Sweet! I was thinking of something along these lines... ish.

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[Hooligan]

I am the Columcille Pursuivant, and would be happy to present a draft of arms along those lines to His Majesty the King of Talossa, to whom we all have swor...uh, to whom we all...uh, to whom...anyway..., yes :-) the draft of arms you have proposed seems legal and valid, and I will work it up for presentation in a petition to see if His Majesty the King of Talossa is inclined to grant it to you as his loyal subject :-) .

RLH
SKA

[Hooligan]

Here is a draft of arms according to the humble petitioner's request:

Vierdiunesc da séifet azür es erxhent
pað ün cäps erxhent qátor calatschen

Paly of seven azure and argent
upon a chief argent four torteaux

The complexity of this device is accounted six:

• Three for tinctures: azure, argent, and gules
  
• One for ordinaries: chief
  
• One for charges: torteau
  
• One for variation of the field: paly

RLH
SKA

[Iudas Levì Bentxamì]

By the mercy of the king, it is my hope that he will not begrudge me my freedom of conscience. If so, he is only exercising his own.

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Jan 18, 2013 22:26:46 GMT -6 Iudas Levì Bentxamì said:

By the mercy of the king, it is my hope that he will not begrudge me my freedom of conscience. If so, he is only exercising his own.

Then perhaps you should not ask this same King to grant you these Arms?

[Iudas Levì Bentxamì]

I humbly appreciate the benefits granted unto me by my King, to paraphrase my oath. And I most certainly do. And I hold gentle status by virtue of my Talossan citizenship.

Should his majesty refuse the grant of arms, he only exercises the same divinely-given rights which I have done. Yet I see no conflict between my reservations regarding the oath and my own request for arms from a sovereign monarch I both love and respect. If his majesty were more adamant about oaths being sworn to him, I might think differently.

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Jan 18, 2013 23:39:40 GMT -6 Iudas Levì Bentxamì said:

I humbly appreciate the benefits granted unto me by my King, to paraphrase my oath. And I most certainly do. And I hold gentle status by virtue of my Talossan citizenship.

Should his majesty refuse the grant of arms, he only exercises the same divinely-given rights which I have done. Yet I see no conflict between my reservations regarding the oath and my own request for arms from a sovereign monarch I both love and respect. If his majesty were more adamant about oaths being sworn to him, I might think differently.

Uh... quit putting actions / words in the King's lap. That wasn't my question. Leave him out of this.

MY question is, pure and simple:

If you refuse to return the Oath as written, and refuse to swear allegiance to the King - should you not accept Arms awarded to you by that very same King?

[Iudas Levì Bentxamì]

I see no conflict between accepting arms and refraining from swearing allegiance. So yes, I should.

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Jan 19, 2013 0:22:33 GMT -6 Iudas Levì Bentxamì said:

I see no conflict between accepting arms and refraining from swearing allegiance. So yes, I should.

I do.

If you refuse to return the Oath as it stands now, and if you refuse to swear Allegiance to the King -

Then I will refuse ask the SKA, and then the King to grant you this CoA.

You don't get to have it both ways.

[Ián B. Anglatzarâ]

Jan 19, 2013 0:42:24 GMT -6 Capt. Sir Mick Preston said:

Jan 19, 2013 0:22:33 GMT -6 Iudas Levì Bentxamì said:

I see no conflict between accepting arms and refraining from swearing allegiance. So yes, I should.

I do.

If you refuse to return the Oath as it stands now, and if you refuse to swear Allegiance to the King -

Then I will refuse ask the SKA, and then the King to grant you this CoA.

You don't get to have it both ways.

MIck, you are proving that the problem with the monarchy isn't the king but what monarchy does to people. You are behaving disgracefully and should consider resign from the college.

You should also seek honorary membership in the ZRT. You're doing a much better job of undermining the monarchy than they are.