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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Jan 5, 2013 10:58:56 GMT -6
I see.
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Jan 5, 2013 11:00:20 GMT -6
Sorry about any confusion im not great at stating my points clearly all the time.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 5, 2013 18:30:16 GMT -6
That the party moves to agitate at a provincial level for the renaming of provinces with the names of foreign politicians, replacing them with Talossan names instead. An issue with this is that - as the example of this fair province in which we hold our convention shows - you can argue and argue for ages on a name, which is essentially arbitrary. One problem for this province is that there was a proposal to rename it "Riverside Province" in the pre-Internet era... but that name's been taken by Fiôvâ now. Another possible option is to agitate for provincial mergers. If Florenciâ expanded to take over Benito, and Vuode annexed Atatürk, that would solve the problem, surely? Never the less, I won't oppose this motion.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Jan 5, 2013 18:44:09 GMT -6
I do quite like that option, but the established Italian-esque culture that dominates Benito would ultimately suffer if that were to happen.
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Jan 6, 2013 11:25:19 GMT -6
If its not too late i would like to propose that we have a policy to introduce legislation to stop a single person from occupying a head of a provincial government post in one province and a cunsterval (?) post in another. Citizens should be restricted to occupying just one of those posts to give fair chance to others wanting such a possition in their province.
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Post by Óïn Ursüm on Jan 6, 2013 11:40:42 GMT -6
The Chair notes, records and publishes the amendment proposed by Evan Cuntainça.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Jan 6, 2013 11:46:58 GMT -6
Another amendment from me:
The Convention resolves that the ZRT agitates for necessary changes to the Organic Law so that the currently unelected position of Cunstaval is replaced with an elected position of the same nature, who will be appointed by the King following their successful election.
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Post by Óïn Ursüm on Jan 6, 2013 11:51:30 GMT -6
The Chair notes, records and publishes the amendment proposed by Carlüs Xheraltescu.
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Post by Óïn Ursüm on Jan 6, 2013 11:56:16 GMT -6
The deadline for further amendments is tomorrow at 4pm GMT.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 6, 2013 18:34:25 GMT -6
Ooh, one more:
A ZRT-led government will call for an additional forum on Wittenberg, moderated but open to non-Talossans of good will who wish to engage with us, like the old "Landing Pier" on Witt-XII (the old Republican Witt).
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Post by Óïn Ursüm on Jan 7, 2013 2:59:33 GMT -6
The Chair notes, records and publishes the amendment proposed by Miestrâ Schivâ.
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Post by Óïn Ursüm on Jan 7, 2013 15:03:08 GMT -6
The Chair declares the amendment phase closed.
Please vote për, contrâ or austanéu on the following amendments. For the "either ... or" amendments, you may either vote: për on one, contrâ on the other; contrâ on both; or abstain.
Item 1 "A compulsory secret ballot, rather than the optional one introduced by recent legislation."
Item 2 "Mandatory candidate lists for Cosâ elections. "
Item 3 "The government to deliver a financial report at the end of each Cosa term, to provide a starting point for the next term's budget."
Item 4 "ZRT provincial representatives to support their provinces to shift to a framework of direct democracy, such as already exists in Fiôvâ and has been suggested for Vuode."
EITHER Item 5a "A Constitutional Convention to repair the bloated OrgLaw." or Item 5b "A programme of "slimming down" the OrgLaw, leaving it with only the basics of government - for example, moving electoral law into statute law." or NEITHER
Item 6 "The ZRT will support no government which includes members of the RUMP, until such time as the RUMP has been out of government for at least one Cosâ term."
Item 7 "A Talossan Legal Code Act would be implemented in order to codify the Statutory Law into a format that is both easily referred to and ‘articles’ easily located. This job would be taken over by agents of the elected government, from the people in the Royal Household who are currently (not) doing it."
EITHER Item 8a "The royal house has no business in most of what it has. Eliminate everything but the College of Arms from Royal authority - for example, the Chancery to become an independent branch of Government, the University of Talossa devolved to a provincial government, etc." or Item 8b "Put the Royal Powers into the hands of a Chancellor, elected each year and who cannot serve more than two successive terms and no more than three terms in six years." or NEITHER
Item 9 "A popular initiative option to remove an incompetent monarch as well as the current Ziu-based one."
Item 10 "Simple abolition of the Semi-Permeable Wall Act; failing that, support of the current MRPT programme for amendment."
Item 11"Opening the possibility of diplomatic relations with other (serious) Talossa-like entities."
Item 12 "Establish a neutral and informative presence on micronational forums, and the King should do a Reddit AMA."
Item 13 "A Translator's Corps to be set up in consultation with CÚG, to ensure that all important documents are translated into (one of the accepted orthographies of) el glheþ talossán."
Item 14 "That the party moves to agitate at a provincial level for the renaming of provinces with the names of foreign politicians, replacing them with Talossan names instead."
Item 15 "Legislate to allow the Ziu to step in to fill provincial offices, according to provincial law, when it is clear that the stipulations of that province's constitution have been neglected."
Item 16"Introduce legislation stating that a single person cannot simultaneously be the head of a provincial government and the Cunstavál of a province."
Item 17 "Agitate for necessary changes to the Organic Law so that the currently unelected position of Cunstaval is replaced with an elected position of the same nature, who will be appointed by the King following their successful election."
Item 18 "A ZRT-led government will call for an additional forum on Wittenberg, moderated but open to non-Talossans of good will who wish to engage with us, like the old "Landing Pier" on Witt-XII (the old Republican Witt)."
Votes close on Wednesday the 9th at 4pm GMT.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 7, 2013 15:11:42 GMT -6
1 PËR; 2 PËR; 3 PËR; 4 PËR
5 - option B
6 PËR; 7 PËR
8 - option A
9 AUSTENÉU; 10 PËR; 11 CONTRÂ; 12 PËR 13 PËR; 14 AUSTENÉU; 15 PËR; 16 AUSTENÉU; 17 PËR; 18 PËR
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Jan 7, 2013 15:20:38 GMT -6
1. Per 2. Per 3. Per 4. Per 5. Option B 6. Per 7. Per 8. Option B 9. Absteneu 10. Per 11. Per 12.Per 13. Per 14. Per 15. Per 16. Per 17. Per 18. Per
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Jan 7, 2013 15:23:55 GMT -6
I.1 - Për I.2 - Për I.3 - Për I.4 - Për I.5.a - Contrâ I.5.b - Për I.6 - Për I.7 - Për I.8.a - Për I.8.b - Contrâ I.9 - Për I.10 - Për I.11 - Austanéu I.12 - Austanéu I.13 - Për I.14 - Për I.15 - Për I.16 - Për I.17 - Për I.18 - Për
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