Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Jun 15, 2019 16:31:49 GMT -6
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Jun 15, 2019 10:16:15 GMT -6
Talossan isch el prüm glheþ uficial da Talossa. En aprendetz. How long have you waited for this moment? Non atendeveu. La vrätsità me va fáþilmint.
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Jun 14, 2019 19:13:28 GMT -6
Talossan isch el prüm glheþ uficial da Talossa. En aprendetz.
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
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Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Jun 14, 2019 18:04:08 GMT -6
Nu, acest tent del context þistoric.
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Jun 14, 2019 2:12:19 GMT -6
'N adofedour se autlöqeux: non créu qe ingen perziun singul put estarh 'n duceu da svilup del glheþ naziunal. Ben non en tent ocsà uçat daditsch.
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Jun 11, 2019 9:31:30 GMT -6
Glheþinat unlisteralmint par Iac Marscheir (com'iens desfís personal)
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on May 21, 2019 1:09:20 GMT -6
Aw, screw you. I got enough shit on my plate already. I don't need another helping from you.
I'm outta this dinky little roleplay you guys all cluster around like it's the only thing that matters. I liked this language, but ehhh... let it die for all I care now. Vive la mort!
If anyone really needs to message me for whatever reason, my Discord is Arkadios#5725. Otherwise, hail Satan and have a lovely afternoon.
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on May 20, 2019 9:49:20 GMT -6
Ok, would anyone like to summarize the results of this thread? I'm sure it's achieved something new.
Right?
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Iac Marscheir
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Post by Iac Marscheir on May 17, 2019 8:38:35 GMT -6
The CÚG domain name has lapsed, but the website is now back up. So we can use this material, or not use this, depending on where we go from here. Honestly, anything that's written in both Talossan and English is good to have. as well as the other languages.
It just looks like all the CSS (webpage styling) got dropped, and now everything's in Times New Roman. XP
(Actually, why wasn't the CÚG site ever translated in German? We have German speakers and German is very widely-spoken. Seems a little strange to me.)
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on May 13, 2019 22:46:02 GMT -6
I've said I'd abandon the language completely in the past. I was also more hot-headed and uncompromising in the past.
My main sticking point is pronunciation, but I won't say "well, I'm taking my personal Talossan and going home!" if that's not done to my absolute satisfaction. I'd like to preserve post-2007 pronunciation rules to the greatest extent possible. I'm also open to reverting orthography to pre-2007 rules, so long as post-2007 pronunciation is preserved as much as possible. I'd like to keep the vowel inventory small, for example.
Now, I realize that just complaining about how this entire thing isn't going anywhere doesn't actually directly move the conversation (although I daresay my strategy was extremely effective), so how about we move this over to the Talossa Discord?
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Iac Marscheir
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Post by Iac Marscheir on May 13, 2019 9:06:48 GMT -6
I really can't expect with any seriousness, especially given the history of initiatives like this, that anything will actually change regarding how we handle the language's evolution. Really, the grinding halt of this discussion serves as a perfect case in point.
Perhaps amending the regulation of the language isn't the right way to go about this. Perhaps completely abolishing any regulatory committees is a better alternative. How's a bit of linguistic anarchy sound?
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Iac Marscheir
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Post by Iac Marscheir on May 9, 2019 13:48:54 GMT -6
If we're going to create one, though, I would be a proponent of an orthography that uses pre-2007 spelling artifacts (to keep the ancien regime happy) while retaining the post-2007 sound inventory. This is reminiscent of French, which uses accent marks for old pronunciations that have merged in Modern French. I dont really know what you mean by this. You mean spelling it as Î but pronouncing it as whatever vowel the post-2007 reform has? Pretty much, yeah.
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
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Post by Iac Marscheir on May 9, 2019 2:43:54 GMT -6
The problem with attempting to create a compromise orthography is that language really isn't a democracy. It's not something that responds to the will of the people like laws do.
If we're going to create one, though, I would be a proponent of an orthography that uses pre-2007 spelling artifacts (to keep the ancien regime happy) while retaining the post-2007 sound inventory. This is reminiscent of French, which uses accent marks for old pronunciations that have merged in Modern French. This is good because French is a major source language for Talossan, and also keeps to the theme of a Romance-based a posteriori conlang, while also possibly being able to enrich the hypothetical history of the language.
How the grammar would respond to this kind of orthography should be a topic for further discussion, but I would personally prefer that the preservation of pre-2007 spellings take a slight backseat to maintaining the use of modern grammar to prevent the orthography from straying too much from the actual pronunciation of the words.
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
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Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
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Post by Iac Marscheir on May 8, 2019 21:35:44 GMT -6
Most of my support for post-2007 orthography comes from its enforced simplification of sound inventory, it's phonetic representation of pronunciation, and the fact that it makes the (already somewhat formidable-looking) alphabet easier to learn.
Please note that I'm neither a final resource on any language, nor as well-experienced as most people in this discussion are, even though I consider myself to have good knowledge of Talossan.
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Apr 4, 2019 13:21:28 GMT -6
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