Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 6, 2012 14:33:06 GMT -6
What, people can't congregate in political parties as they like? They can, all they like. Registration is a technical issue dealing with elections. Per Article VI, Section 2 of the Organic Law - Only"registered" political parties may obtain seats in the Cosâ. Parties which win votes but are not registered may not assume their seats in the Cosâ until they register. A party may register at any time with the Secretary of State as follows: First, the party must have at least one member designated as its "Leader." Second, the leader must provide the Secretary of State with a 50-word (or less) statement of the general aims and views of the party. Third, the Secretary of State may request from all parties a fee, to be set by law, to cover the cost of the election. This fee shall be uniform for all parties. There has been concern that malicious persons could go ahead and register under the name of a well-known party, in order to deceive less-active citizens into giving them votes. The purpose of this legislation is to make it clear that when the OrgLaw says "A party may register", it doesn't mean anybody claiming to be that party, it means actual representatives of the party acting on its behalf. Parties are given the responsibility to tell the SoS who their authorized agents are as an aid to the SoS in identifying such. The SoS is explicitly instructed in cases of a dispute to make a good-faith judgment of who actually represents the party (rather than automatically register whomever tried to register first). In the absolute worst case, everybody claiming to represent the party is registered under distinguishable names.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 6, 2012 2:29:33 GMT -6
Istefan Perþonest has proposed two different plans: Both intended solely as a basis for discussion, not an "implement right now". The Republic has indicated that this is their preferred plan. The Republic doesn't actually care which of them, B gained favor because there was some not-on-boards communication from Vudoe objecting to A, and thus B was seen as possibly being easier to implement. A better solution would add some tract of habitable land to Maritiimi-Maxhestic to at least partially compensate for the loss of the bulk of Maxhestic, and would still give me hope of one day being able to find a home in my actual province. It was suggested about on the Witt thread (and on the Republic board) that M-M might like to take canton 143 (currently in Maricopa and marked on the discussion maps as going to the new province) as a populated compensation for western Maxhestic. Nobody from M-M ever commented on the idea.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 5, 2012 20:25:31 GMT -6
S:reu Perþonest- Perhaps if we citizens of M-M are not working at at pace that satisfies YOU, then maybe you should look for another Province to dissect. Perhaps, Benito? Sir, I would gladly do so if the Republicans wanted any part of Benito, however, they don't want it. They want the Mitchell Building. The Mitchell Building is in Port Maxhestic, not Benito. If M-M doesn't want to give it up, fine, at least we've got the progress of eliminating the impossiblity. If you want a different border, fine, there's something to discuss. Does M-M want a canton of Benito in compensation? Go ahead and ask for it. Leaving the whole Reunison project in total limbo because M-M insists nothing be done to further it, even discussion in the Hopper, until it acts and having M-M sitting around taking no action? Fine. Whatever. Whenever you want to get around to it.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 5, 2012 18:50:17 GMT -6
How about instead, we chop Benito in half, without asking the Citizens of Benito first? Sir, I repeatedly asked the citizens of Maritiimi-Maxhestic for input, ideas, anything in a now nine-page discussion thread on the Witt board. The whole situation has also been brought up in the M-M boards, too. I'm not opposed to partitioning M-M. I'm against it being done before the General Assembly of M-M proposes a reshaping and division of the land, THEN the current citizens of M-M vote on it, THEN a Bill is written and hoppered. Sounds good to me. So, when was M-M thinking about getting around to doing something like that? March 2013? December 2025? A week after Judgment Day? It's now been a week since the borders above were submitted as the preferred option by the President of the Republic to its citizenry. There has been mention of the idea in both the general Witt board and in the M-M board. And there has been absolutely nothing heard from M-M except a desire for discussion, without M-M actually following that up even with discussion. Are you feeling goaded? Well, M-M seems to need a goad to get it to say anything. Perhaps someone in M-M was going to submit a bill to the Assembly, or voice an objection to the borders above and try to fight for a re-arrangement, or do, in fact, anything about Reunison in any way whatsoever. Were you, sir, about to do such? Did you have plans to do so? If you don't want people to try to go ahead without you, it's generally a good idea to, at some point, actually mention you care.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 5, 2012 15:26:54 GMT -6
I think we tried this not too long ago. I think it was defeated in favor of a non-omnibus version. Which hasn't been done yet. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again? Besides, what is your logic for removing each of these bills? In specific: 1. 6RC6. With the existence of the Royal Bank & Post, we don't need a Pôst Naziunál run by Robert Madison limited to issuing stamps worth fifteen hundredths of a US cent. 2. 6RC26. Giving the King a vote to break ties in the Cosa is, under the current Organic Law, inorganic. 3. 6RC30. We don't need a law that makes Ben Madison "Eternal Deputy Secretary of State." 4. 7RC6. We don't do debates on the Clarks themselves or publish bills in them the month before they're up for a vote, we should bring the law in line with practice. 5. 7RC14. The formatting rules here are unnecessary, outdated, and not followed anyway. 6 & 7. 8RC5 and 9RC12. Limits on bills proposed by a party are unnecessary, regularly violated, and of questionable Organicity. Especially the follow-up where co-sponsoring a bill counts toward the limit. 8. 16RC3. In the era of the Internet, we don't need a 7:30 pm poll closing time to makes sure people can get out of Jahn's neighborhood before it's dark. 9. 23RZ33. Nobody publishes hardcopies of Ar Pats for new citizens anymore, and the political parties are all mentioned on the kingdom's website. Outdated, irrelevant. 10. 29RZ8. De facto repealed by the Cabinet Refinishing Act already, does Talossa need a Minister of Intelligence or a spy agency? 11. 31RZ21. This law allows one Berber a month to bypass difficult immigration procedures that no longer exist. If Berbers want to become Talossans, the current immigration regime is actually easier than the one contemplated by this bill, since it doesn't involve the Uppermost Cort in decisions. 12. 32RZ4. I'm reasonably certain that Mark Hamilton is no longer a citizen, which makes it kinda weird for him to be Postmaster General, especially since the Royal Bank & Post already has its own head (and so does the Pôst Naziunál).
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 5, 2012 14:42:09 GMT -6
Okay. First, by the Organic Law, M-M has the final say on whatever territory, if any, gets transferred. Thus, "upon authorization of the transfer of such canton by Maritiimi-Maxhestic through legal and Organic means". The Ziu and this bill can't change boundary lines without the consent of the residents. (In fact, even an amendment to the OrgLaw can't, unless it won a majority of voters in M-M.)
Second, this is in the Hopper, a place for debate and discussion. There is plenty of opportunity for M-M to debate and get the suggested borders in this bill changed before it's put on the Clark.
Third, if the goal is Reunison prior to the 8th anniversary of the declaration of the republic (and prior to the next national election in the Kingdom), then we actually are on something of a schedule, here. If M-M doesn't like this border, that's fine by me, but it would be useful if the province came forward with a counter-proposal in the next few weeks, before the May Clark.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 5, 2012 1:24:24 GMT -6
By the way, the current Regent of the University of Talossa is quite eager for this class to go forward.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 4, 2012 23:03:40 GMT -6
Bill withdrawn for now.
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 4, 2012 22:36:21 GMT -6
The Party Registration Regularity Act WHEREAS the current law on how parties register themselves is not clear, and WHEREAS something as important as election law requires clarity, now THEREFORE we, the Ziu, enact that: 1. Each party has the responsibility of communicating to the Secretary of State a list of its authorized agents and the name of its leader, and of updating the same. 2. In any case where the authorized agents of a party or its leadership are a matter of dispute in a manner affecting party registration or the filling of empty seats in the Cosa, the Secretary of State shall make a good-faith effort to determine which disputant has the best right to name such, taking into consideration the internal rules of the party. Each other disputant shall have the opportunity to register under a party name that differentiates it from the other disputants. 3. In any case where the authorized agents of a party or its leadership are a matter of dispute in a manner affecting party registration or the filling of empty seats in the Cosa, and the Secretary of State is unable to determine that any of the disputing claimants to a party has a best right to name such, each disputant shall have the opportunity to register under a party name that differentiates it from the other disputants. In such a case as to leadership, the original party shall be considered to not have a functional leader for the purposes of Article VII, Section 9 of the Organic Law. Urent q'estadra saIstefan Perþonest, MC, CSPP Flip Molinar, MC, CSPP
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 4, 2012 22:12:32 GMT -6
The National Statutory Laws Cleanup Act WHEREAS, the Digest of the Laws includes a number of statutes that are outdated, superseded, in contradiction to the Organic Law, or simply not observed because they're obvious nonsense, and WHEREAS, such acts include putting Robert Madison in charge of making stamps worth fifteen hundredths of a US cent, closing the polls because of the neighborhood former citizens lived in, putting party leader email addresses in a book no longer published, bypassing immigration bureaucracy that no longer exists, and similar things, and WHEREAS, such things do not belong on the statute books even if they're perfectly appropriate bits of history to be recorded, now THEREFORE we the Ziu, hereby repeal the following dozen acts: 1. Talossan Statute 6RC6 - The Postal Administration Act 2. Talossan Statute 6RC26 - Cosa Decision Making Process Act 3. Talossan Statute 6RC30 - Vote by Phone Act 4. Talossan Statute 7RC6 - The Debate Via the Clark Enabling Act 5. Talossan Statute 7RC14 - The Vote-By-Post Stabilization Act 6. Talossan Statute 8RC5 - An Act to Finally Put a Limit on How Many Bills You Can Submit 7. Talossan Statute 9RC12 - Bill Sensibility Act 8. Talossan Statute 16RC3 - It's Midnight in Talossa... Do You Know Where Your Voters Are? 9. Talossan Statute 23RZ33 - The Inclusion Of Information Act 10. Talossan Statute 29RZ8 - The Primary Intelligence Group Act 11. Talossan Statute 31RZ21 - THE LAW OF RETURN 12. Talossan Statute 32RZ4 - The Postmaster-General Establishment Act FURTHERMORE, we the Ziu amend Talossan Statute 16RC11 - MCs are Responsible for Their Own Votes Act, the words “or to Undersecretary of State Madison” being stricken, and FURTHERMORE, we the Ziu acknowledge that the Pôst Naziunál as an institution has already been rechartered as the Royal Bank and Post, and that the Royal Bank and Post as an institution is the same entity that was founded as Vudoe Post. Uréu q'estadra sa: Istefan Perþonest (MC-CSPP)
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 4, 2012 15:36:23 GMT -6
43RZ13 – PER 43RZ14 – PER 43RZ15 – PER VoC: ÜC
Appended, the MC's remarks on two bills. 43RZ13 - "While I see relatively little danger in the website recording this information, I also see less advantage. Miscreants have trivial ways of faking these data anyway; I myself have an active phone number for an area code over two thousand miles from my current home. I accordingly have no objections to the bill, and stand in solidarity with the CSP." 43RZ15 - "All this bill actually does is establish courtesy titles for former Justices, which is acceptable enough. The honourable retirement of Justices by the normal removal procedure was already established in Talossan custom by the removal of Tom Buffone with 24RZ6; this is merely a codification of that precedent."
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 3, 2012 0:09:07 GMT -6
I don't know. I guess that's up to you, S:reu Regent! On a related note, would permanent faculty be expected to teach regularly? If not (as I assume), this seems to me more like an accreditation program than a faculty. That might be something you'd want to consider. Oh, I've got all sorts of ideas as to possible rules on minimum course loads for permanent faculty*, faculty senate/governance, and the like. I'm just not spending a lot of time at the moment working out specific details while I'm neck deep in the whole Reunision thing (plus, well, "real life"). I brought up this specific topic because I was contacted about it, and figured I'd give people a chance to express their opinions (so they could yell if they thought it was awful, and so I could steal any good ideas).
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 2, 2012 23:16:33 GMT -6
Talossa is "serious fun". How much work, as a guideline, would strike the proper balance here?
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 2, 2012 18:46:23 GMT -6
We need a law in the next clark that should include the union treaty. I do intend to submit a Reunision enabling act to be included on the next Clark. I am currently considering several phrasings. It probably won't take the precise form of a treaty, but more closely resemble the process of the US annexation of Texas. I've been following developments on the Republican Witt closely in order to make this work smoothly. I am not sure a referendum is actually appropriate on the issue as a whole. The immigration of citizens is not generally considered a matter for referendum. Further, the Organic Law contains no requirement for a referendum for creation of territories or provinces, and every previous time the Kingdom created provinces or territories, it did so without a national referendum. Certainly we need the consent of Maricopa and Maritiimi-Maxhestic for the plan mapped above; I believe that legally this requires the consent of the government of the province, not necessarily a popular vote. We do probably need a referendum on an amendment to allow the splitting of the current canton of Pórt Maxhestic — and usefully we already have a proposed amendment in the Hopper that would enable such, with appropriate action by M-M. (And even if we created the new province directly by an Organic Law amendment, we'd need the approval of the voters in M-M, since the Organic Law says an amendment that affects the territory of a province shall only be passed with the approval of a majority of participating voters in that province).
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
Posts: 1,024
Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Mar 1, 2012 19:53:39 GMT -6
I'm hoping for feedback on such issues, and the intimately related one of what fields of study we would (at least initially) accept them for.
For example, I would feel reasonably confident setting standards for, say, someone looking to submit a Habilitationsschrift on Talossan history, and have a solid idea of who to ask to review it (given that we don't have any permanent faculty yet to do the reviewing). I also wouldn't be particularly worried about someone trying to use one in that field to serve as a "diploma mill degree" to defraud people. For one on the Talossan language, I would certainly have to rely on finding other reviewers who themselves would have to involve themselves in setting standards for length and such, but there are enough possible ones that I would have no serious concerns. Baron Hooligan, for example, is an obvious pick there, if he has the time. There are also a number of others with expertise in el Ghleþ.
On the other hand, if someone came at me with an engineering text, I not only wouldn't be sure where to start, I'm not sure how I would figure out who to hand the job off to. And I'd be worried that some time later, someone would get killed because an unqualified engineer scammed his way into a job based on a University of Talossa "credential".
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