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Post by Béneditsch Ardpresteir, O.SPM. on Jul 18, 2012 6:09:07 GMT -6
Contra I'll have to open a Hindu Party/Group then with around 4-5 people already here... and mind you, this might be the first time in history that the Hindus might go on a crusade
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Glüc da Dhi
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jul 18, 2012 6:14:07 GMT -6
It almost looks like we´re voting already. I will (surprise, surprise) be voting contrâ. Should this pass, I might even consider joining the TAA.
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Owen Edwards
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Post by Owen Edwards on Jul 18, 2012 6:39:49 GMT -6
It almost looks like we´re voting already. I will (surprise, surprise) be voting contrâ. Should this pass, I might even consider joining the TAA. The TAA will, if this Amendment and Referendum pass, be pretending our King doesn't exist, proving themselves traitors, and will all be promptly shot.
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jul 18, 2012 6:41:56 GMT -6
This will certainly not get my vote.
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Post by Suischadna Margreta Blasiüs on Jul 18, 2012 6:58:21 GMT -6
Well, I vote for. I disagree that the bill is forcing people to "serve" Christ; I think the purpose is to place Talossa under His protection and guidance. if you don't believe He exists, then what's the harm? And if you *do* believe He exists, then why wouldn't you want that?
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Jul 18, 2012 7:00:44 GMT -6
Well, I vote for. I disagree that the bill is forcing people to "serve" Christ; I think the purpose is to place Talossa under His protection and guidance. if you don't believe He exists, then what's the harm? And if you *do* believe He exists, then why wouldn't you want that? Because I also believe in a secular state that isn't seen to favour one religion over the other. And, if you don't believe that's what this bill will do, then why not pick another religious figure instead of Christ?
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Owen Edwards
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Post by Owen Edwards on Jul 18, 2012 7:07:16 GMT -6
The Amendment makes no claim as to the truth value of Christian belief, nor does it seek to establish institutional Christianity.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Jul 18, 2012 7:11:29 GMT -6
No, but in using a prominent Christian figure and elevating him as such, it is certainly implied.
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Jul 18, 2012 7:14:13 GMT -6
Is this an attempt of a religious coup d'état?
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Owen Edwards
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Post by Owen Edwards on Jul 18, 2012 7:15:39 GMT -6
Is this an attempt of a religious coup d'état? Yes, why has no-one so far worried about whether this deposed John or not? Perhaps a change to the text might be made, maintaining all present laws in terms of selecting a King, whilst recognizing the overall suzerainty of Jesus of Nazareth.
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Üc R. Tärfâ
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Post by Üc R. Tärfâ on Jul 18, 2012 7:17:54 GMT -6
I'm Catholic. I believe in Jesus Christ, our Saviour. I believe a person should accept His message freely, voluntarily. I'm a progressist. I believe in the separation of Church and State. I believe in Cavour's "Free Church in a Free State". I believe that a State shouldn't interferes in the religiuos coscience of its citizens. I believe that Jesus should be, and He is, my eternal and spiritual king. I believe Jesus shouldn't be, and wouldn't have wanted to be, my temporal king.
Because we're talking about a state. If you don't believe in Zeus, why wouldn't you want him to be the King of Talossa?
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Glüc da Dhi
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jul 18, 2012 7:29:59 GMT -6
This proposal and the reaction of most people to it, remind me of the attempt to make Miestra Queen.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Jul 18, 2012 7:33:31 GMT -6
This proposal and the reaction of most people to it, remind me of the attempt to make Miestra Queen. Are you comparing Miestra to Jesus? ;D
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Üc R. Tärfâ
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Post by Üc R. Tärfâ on Jul 18, 2012 7:33:35 GMT -6
This proposal and the reaction of most people to it, remind me of the attempt to make Miestra Queen. She'll probably be next 1st of April in Fiova
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Jul 18, 2012 7:33:40 GMT -6
Except that next April 1 is, uh, let me count, er... still quite some months away.
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