[ELECTION MESSAGE] Miestrâ për Senäts

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Estimats reviênsadéirs:

I offer myself for the role of first Senator from the Free Province of Fiôvâ.

If you're already going to be voting ZRT in the Cosâ election, then I probably don't need to say anything. With me in the Senäts and Carlüs leading our Cosâ team, we're going to be a red-hot force for reform and democracy in Talossa.

If you're not a Defencist, let me say for a start that either Dieter or Ián B-figlheu would be fine Senators as well, who would defend Fiôvân interests well. But the broader question is: how can we defend the legacy of the Republic best? I would suggest that independent candidates - or candidates only loosely aligned to parties - would not be as effective Senators as the leader of one of the major (perhaps the major? cross fingesr) opposition parties. So if you want to defend Fiôvâ and our Republican heritage, and light a fire under the self-satisfied, power-for-power's-sake RUMP establishment, vote Miestrâ.

One more thing. I'm going to unveil this on the main Witt in a little while, but given that we will be voting by the noxious public ballot, I would like to see every Fiôvân voter attach this to their vote, or something like it:



Så vivadra la democrätsiâ Talossán!

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

An appeal to ZRT voters: it's not funny any more. If I come last in the Senäts election I'm going to cry.

[Glüc da Dhi]

Did you know that if the election is a tie, you or Carlüs (depending on when the elections for Capitan end) gets to pick a winner?

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Yeah, but that would open a whole other can of worms, so I hope the voters sort it out.

[D. N. Vercáriâ]

Doesn't it dry up your tears to see how the ZRT is scoring, nationwide? It seems like right from the start republicanism isn't a lost cause in the united Talossa.

[Ián B. Anglatzarâ]

Jun 29, 2012 2:34:20 GMT -6 D. N. Vercáriâ said:

Doesn't it dry up your tears to see how the ZRT is scoring, nationwide? It seems like right from the start republicanism isn't a lost cause in the united Talossa.

And there will be a seat for her in the Ziu regardless of how the Senäts election goes.

(Isn't that a strange side effect of the D&D Cosâ and Miestrâ running in both elections, by the way? Presumably every ZRT member on the party list will get a seat in any case, so whichever way it goes everyone on the ZRT list will be in the Ziu. The Senäts election is more about keeping Dieter and me out.)

[D. N. Vercáriâ]

As for the latter, the question may be whether the Fiôvan seat in the Senate shall be held by the representative of a party or a more or less independent representative of the constituency.

[Ián B. Anglatzarâ]

Jun 29, 2012 6:15:03 GMT -6 D. N. Vercáriâ said:

As for the latter, the question may be whether the Fiôvan seat in the Senate shall be held by the representative of a party or a more or less independent representative of the constituency.

Of course, but it's quite multilayered.

By the way, is it really Fiôvan? Maybe it's Fiôvese instead?

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

Jun 28, 2012 16:53:07 GMT -6 Glüc da Dhi said:

Did you know that if the election is a tie, you or Carlüs (depending on when the elections for Capitan end) gets to pick a winner?

Given that Miestra is a candidate for the Senate election, it might be better to wait for the result of the Capitan election regardless. I'd rather not have to make that decision though, and in the event that such a circumstance arises in which I will be required to appoint a Senator, I will consult the Cunstaval with regards to the appointment. My decision will not be governed by a political bias if I'm required to make such a decision.

[D. N. Vercáriâ]

Couldn't we agree that in case of a tie in the Senate election we will be flipping a coin or some such, for a truly impartial decision?

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

I was trying to make it sound more technical than that...

[Üc R. Tärfâ]

Accepted that we all want secret ballot in the future, the point is that in this election ballots aren't secret but public...

And in this akward situation in case of a tie between Miestrâ and someone else, there's the possibility to know which candidate has recived more votes from the other citizen of our Province... Even if I hate this solution... because ballots should be secret, but it's difficult to pretend them to be, while they aren't. I didn't want to say it, but there's a deep voice inside me that keeps tell me that fact....

[Istefan Perþonest]

Jun 29, 2012 6:26:16 GMT -6 C. Carlüs Xheraltescù said:

in the event that such a circumstance arises in which I will be required to appoint a Senator, I will consult the Cunstaval with regards to the appointment.

Make the tied candidates duel to the death! Survival of the fittest! Two candidates enter, one Senator leaves!

Ahem. Excuse me, the little devil on my shoulder seems to have temporarily seized my keyboard.

[D. N. Vercáriâ]

Our Cunstaval is a jester!

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

No, the solution should be obvious. If the open-ballot election is a tie, then we should organise another vote between the tied candidates under Fiôvân secret-ballot rules, and the Capitán shall appoint the winner of that.