Petition to the SoS: Xhorxh Asmour

[Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN]

The Office of the Prime Minister
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L'Óifisch dal Seneschal


Petition to the SoS: Grant of Citizenship to Xhorxh Asmour

I, Erschéveþ Cjantscheir, Seneschal del Regipäts Talossan, with all duly vested authority and stuff, do hereby and forthwith, under Clause 10 of 35RZ22 - The Umpteenth Immigration Reform Act, as amended, petition the Secretary of State to exempt a Xhorxh Asmour, upon his formal application for citizenship, from the requirements and/or provisions of the aforementioned Act and/or any other Act, save the requirement to take an Oath of Citizenship and to immediately issue a Royal Grant of Citizenship to Xhorxh Asmour and assign the said, S:reu Asmour, to the Province of Maritiimi-Maxhestic, upon receipt of such an Oath.

Done under my hand and seal, as from Kenwood House, this day the 12th day of March, in the Year of Our Lord 2012, of the independence of Talossa the thirty-third, and the fifth in the reign of our gracious Sovereign John.


Litz Cjantscheir MC, ChRTB
Seneschal

L.S.

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

Wonderful! And it would seem appropriate that, as the first reunionised citizen, S:reu Asmour be appointed Governor of the new territory that we create, to usher it into provincehood.

[Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h]

Mar 12, 2012 14:12:04 GMT -6 Sir Alexandreu Davinescu said:

Wonderful! And it would seem appropriate that, as the first reunionised citizen, S:reu Asmour be appointed Governor of the new territory that we create, to usher it into provincehood.

Unless I am Organically-mistaken, we will elect our own territorial governor subject to the approval of M-M (or wherever we go at first). :-)

And it may or may not be Xhorxh. :-)

[D. N. Vercáriâ]

I think OrgLaw XVII,4 doesn't allow for self-government of a territory.

Anyway, you wouldn't do Xhorxh a favour by making him a stooge of the Federal layer. No, you definitely wouldn't, S:reu Davis.

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

Territories are governed by an individual chosen by the king, as advised by the Seneschal. I didn't realize the identity of the person appointed was an issue, since I was under the impression he would only hold the office for such a time as was required to get your local government and constitution in order (which I would assume would be a short time indeed). If it actually matters, then never mind about it. Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers.

[Istefan Perþonest]

Territories are indeed governed by an appointee of the King. However, people also can't legally be assigned to territories under the current OrgLaw (an amendment passed in 1998 as a bitter gesture against Penguinea, which had its origin in citizens assigned to Pengöpäts). So Fiôvâ will never be a territory like Pengöpäts is.

Instead, Fiôvâ will be created by the formation of a to-be-Fiôvân government by some of the residents of M-M, and then the Ziu directly making a province out of that to-be-government and the cantons which M-M and Maricopa have graciously authorized for that purpose.

[D. N. Vercáriâ]

I know that it's the prerogative of the King to appoint a Governor. This appointment shouldn't be granted to the one who's incidentally the first to run across the border, though. Even if it's only for a quickly passing phase and, therefore, speed might be a qualifying quality of the possible appointee.

[Hooligan]

Yeah, I think there was a misunderstanding. Obviously once the territory is a province, it will operate under its own Constitution, with elections. Until then, I think Alexander was thinking it was kinda like Pengöpäts, and would have a royally-appointed Governor, akin to a Cunstaval for the provinces.

His Majesty, however, has always been of the opinion that the Cunstaval of a province (and therefore, I would think, by extension, the Governor of a Territory) should not be a citizen of that province (and therefore of that "territory", although "citizens of a territory" is kind of a not-colouring-in-the-lines thing that we're just kind of "doing in finger-quotes" here while Reunision takes place).

Long story short, I think the Seneschal would recommend any territorial governor to the King, but as Alexander said, chances are that this whole process will be over before there is any chance to install such a pre-province-Governor, and instead, once the Province is chartered, the Seneschal will recommend a Cunstaval to the King for him to (be forced to) appoint.

Hool

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

I should make it perfectly clear to the King, to Lord Hooligan, to the Seneschál and to GGS Davis that cxhn. Asmoûr's "premature reunision" is the subject of some quite hurt feelings on the Republic side. Some even suggested that it was deliberately to curry favour with the existing authorities and "get a leg up" on the rest of us. Thankfully, Hool and Alex's response make it clear that no such thing was envisaged - their reaction has avoided a nasty roadblock in the way of Reunision.

[Hooligan]

I will always do my level best to never disappoint when it comes to having no clue what is going on.

Hool

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

Where am I? What's going on? Who are all you people? I want my pudding. PUDDING!

[Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h]

Mar 12, 2012 15:51:10 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

I should make it perfectly clear to the King, to Lord Hooligan, to the Seneschál and to GGS Davis that cxhn. Asmoûr's "premature reunision" is the subject of some quite hurt feelings on the Republic side. Some even suggested that it was deliberately to curry favour with the existing authorities and "get a leg up" on the rest of us. Thankfully, Hool and Alex's response make it clear that no such thing was envisaged - their reaction has avoided a nasty roadblock in the way of Reunision.

Xhorxh was being an honest idiot, that's all, though he is normally not an idiot. Yes, I stand with Miestrâ on all of this, by the way.

Were I the Kingdom SoS, I would hold off the Grant...until Reunision - hee, hee... ;-)

GV

[D. N. Vercáriâ]

It may be debatable if the "premature reunision" has been a clever thing to do or not, but please remember that no-one can take away Xhorxh's right to quit the Republic at any time he wants.

It would just have been ironic if this had been (coincidentally) rewarded with a howsoever symbolic Royal appointment to the job of an overseer over the province in the making.

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

That's true. I should be appointed instead.

There will be... changes.

[D. N. Vercáriâ]

Mar 13, 2012 4:04:27 GMT -6 Sir Alexandreu Davinescu said:

That's true. I should be appointed instead.

There will be... changes.

LOL, I see you're seeking for some exclusive kind of fun.