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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on Mar 13, 2012 5:22:36 GMT -6
That's true. I should be appointed instead. There will be... changes. ;D
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Xhorxh Asmour
Talossan since 02-21-2003
Wot? Me, worry?
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Post by Xhorxh Asmour on Mar 13, 2012 8:12:06 GMT -6
...Cxhn. Asmoûr's "premature reunision" is the subject of some quite hurt feelings on the Republic side. Some even suggested that it was deliberately to curry favour with the existing authorities and "get a leg up" on the rest of us. First, I´m not a mercenary and didn´t beg anyone in the Kingdom to be appointed governor or cunstaval or anything. I just got bored to death by some Republic people´s nitpicking and procrastinating moves. Quoting from the RepWitt: GV: ´The following shall be tacked onto the rest of the Declaration: <begin amendment> 5. This Declaration shall take effect at Noon, Central time, on Friday 1 June 2012. ... It is only appropriate we make our return/coming-to on our anniversary.´Miestra: ´...by asking for debate on an amendment, GV has put off the passage of the Declaration by at least a week. Was this the intention?´Reunision is a most desirable thing but some people hungry for power and with a dirty mind want to ridicule my early kingdomrecitizenization with defamatory statements. The same people make hasty or irrelevant moves like the one cited above. I have already sworn the oath and will become a Kingdom citizen in a short time. I did what I did because 1) I had the right to 2) I thought it best according to my own will and conscience 3) I´ve been informed by Kingdom officials that my move will not in any way technically hinder or harm the reunision process. Therefore, I would be very pleased to see those spiteful and vicious comments stop. They just defile the reputation of those who make them. If GV, Miestra and Eiric are planning to start a political party in the Kingdom, they´re giving potential members and voters here, especially the newbies, a damn good example with their gossiping, slandering and lack of respect.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Mar 13, 2012 10:19:13 GMT -6
We have the right to speculate just as you have the right to make your own decisions. Nobody prevented you from prematurely departing, but you should at least have the common decency to understand why your actions may have upset some people and enraged others. Personally, I think considering your actions - you've been let off lightly.
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Xhorxh Asmour
Talossan since 02-21-2003
Wot? Me, worry?
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Post by Xhorxh Asmour on Mar 13, 2012 10:28:45 GMT -6
As my access to the private Witt12 forum has been cut off, I have no conditions to quote from there anymore, but even if I have given you any reasons to be mad at me, that doesn´t justify people using nasty terms against me or calling me an idiot.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Mar 13, 2012 10:55:31 GMT -6
You'll find that when you make people mad they'll use "nasty terms", and sometimes that's justification enough. Now, let's face it Xhorxh, it wasn't exactly the most well thought out plan of action, and I don't really understand your point about the republic taking it slowly. Dissolving the Republic shouldn't be a decision taken lightly. Now, I'm sure everyone must be tired of reading this ceaseless debate, don't you think? No resolution nor conclusion will come of it other than that some people are annoyed with you.
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Mar 13, 2012 12:55:52 GMT -6
There's only been one guy who didn't walk out in style, so blame it on the exceptional circumstances that this renunciaton is causing a few more ripples than the average renunciation - and get over it, everybody.
I must admit that I felt some furor in the moment when I saw this suggestion of making Xhorxh our symbolic overlord after the completion of the reunionision, but this has been proven coincidental wind in sails.
If I was in the mood for writing essays, I would write something about hurt feelings, hidden prejudice, unresolved grudges in the post-Talossan-Cold-War era. I guess it will still take a while till we'll have it in our veins that "the other side" isn't trying to lure us into their pitfalls whenever they can.
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Post by Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h on Mar 13, 2012 12:55:58 GMT -6
Xhorxh: I was not trying to be vicious. Our joint return/coming to the Kingdom was/is very important to us. Of course, you have always had Talossa's best interests at-heart. You were just a little hasty, that's all.
Besides, if you *really* want to see 'vicious', re-read Witt from 2003-2004. :-)
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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Mar 13, 2012 20:53:53 GMT -6
WHEREAS Xhorxh Asmour completed all the legal requirements for admission to the Kingdom of Talossa quite a while ago, and has re-satisfied the nation and us of his interest in Talossan citizenship (the Best Thing Money Can’t Buy), of his intention and desire to participate in our national life, and of his loyalty to the Crown, we are pleased and honoured hereby to re-admit Xhorxh Asmour to the exalted status of a NATURALIZED CITIZEN OF THE KINGDOM OF TALOSSA, and of the province of Maritiimi-Maxhestic, with all the rights, privileges, and duties thereunto appertaining. Done by my hand in the name of King John and under his Royal Seal this 13th day of March in the year of the common era 2012, in the 5th year of the reign of our gracious sovereign King John, and of the independence of Talossa the 33rd. Sir Iustì Canun, Secretar d’Estat
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Mar 13, 2012 23:01:15 GMT -6
Good to see you back XA
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Xhorxh Asmour
Talossan since 02-21-2003
Wot? Me, worry?
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Post by Xhorxh Asmour on Mar 14, 2012 6:24:24 GMT -6
Thanks a lot, S-reu Canun! GV: No hard feelings, bro!
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Mar 14, 2012 12:25:00 GMT -6
Welcome back!
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King John
King of Talossa
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Post by King John on Mar 14, 2012 16:04:40 GMT -6
Indeed, Xhorxh, welcome back! Now, on another point. [O]nce the Province is chartered, the Seneschal will recommend a Cunstaval to the King for him to (be forced to) appoint. Actually no. I appoint my own Cunstavais. The Cunstaval is the personal representative of the Crown to the Province — not a political appointee —, who can exercise the Crown's (very limited) prerogatives with respect to Provincial matters. (Of course, the King can exercise his own prerogatives, if he chooses. But usually he's too busy doing ... important King stuff.) I would recommend — not that it's likely to matter much to me — that at the death of a King, the Cunstavalsqabs should be considered ipso facto vacant. — John R
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Hooligan
Squirrel King of Arms; Cunstaval to Maricopa
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Post by Hooligan on Mar 14, 2012 18:41:05 GMT -6
Actually no. I appoint my own Cunstavais. Actually, Your Majesty, the Seneschal tells you who to appoint, just like all the other offices, because, as it says in per Art. XVII, Sec. 9....oh wait...I guess you're right (dang; what else is new?). Fine. I guess no party can decide who you name to act apolitically in the national interest as Cunstaval for any particular province. Sheesh. You and your "some things you party hacks shouldn't be allowed to do (as long as I, your King, aren't allowed [like a certain Kingish someone in the past] to behave like a party hack)" mentality. Sigh. Important King Stuff (noun) Reading pulp paperbacks, ogling, surfing the 'Net (see: ogling). Hool (fearing for his neck)
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Mar 14, 2012 18:55:00 GMT -6
You forgot to add Frequent Currency Inspections to the list of Kingly things.
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Hooligan
Squirrel King of Arms; Cunstaval to Maricopa
Posts: 7,325
Talossan Since: 7-12-2005
Motto: PRIMA CAPIAM POCULA
Baron Since: 11-20-2005
Count Since: 9-8-2012
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Post by Hooligan on Mar 14, 2012 19:11:40 GMT -6
You forgot to add Frequent Currency Inspections to the list of Kingly things. An unforgiveable and unexplainable omission! (clutches even harder and more protectively at his neck) Hool
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