The TAIAD Act

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I'm voting no,... there-- I participated. Mark it!

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Jul 22, 2009 22:32:12 GMT -6 Ieremiac'h Ventrutx said:

Again, I would disagree, if the government decided as a whole to give $ to Focus on the Family or the American Family Defense Fund I am sure there would be something that someone that is not part of "the collective"; that would not agree that their value's would be represented.

I for one, would have a huge problem with that.

[Breneir Itravilatx]

Let it be noted that when the time came we supported the creation of a space agency but not an international aid agency.

I sadly withdraw the TAIAD bill from consideration due to lack of sufficient support.

[Deleted]

I'm not sure which saddens me more.

Those who think the government should never, under any circumstances offer financial aid to any cause.

Or those who feel S:reu Tzaracomprada is incapable of choosing worthy causes which would not cause political controversy.

S:reu Tzaracomprada took great steps here in attempting to legitimize Talossa. By offering aid to victims of disaster, Talossa would be doing the work of a nation by serving the global community. Instead, we are content to making coloring books, creating space programs which have yielded no reported results since their creation and finding new and exponentially more irrelevant legislation to pass so that some of our Senators can fan their feathers for all to see.

This is a very sad day indeed.

[Deleted]

It saddens me that the idea of monetary contributions to charity would be left here as a black-and-white issue. No one here has stated an opinion against giving to charity. There is merely disagreement about how it should be handled. How about, instead of "all is lost," we revert to "back to the drawing board?"

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

That's not as dramatic, I think.

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

Jul 23, 2009 7:49:56 GMT -6 Adm. T.M. Asmourescu, O. Ben. said:

Or those who feel S:reu Tzaracomprada is incapable of choosing worthy causes which would not cause political controversy.

Considering that Talossa has everything from socialists to libertarians bordering on anarchists, is there such a thing?

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Jul 23, 2009 10:02:31 GMT -6 Sir C. M. Siervicül said:

Considering that Talossa has everything from socialists to libertarians bordering on anarchists, is there such a thing?

Heh. This is an excellent point.

_{(P.S. There's no "border" in at least two cases of which I'm aware.)}

[Breneir Itravilatx]

It is not an excellent point. Nations are capable of giving aid to worthy causes without political intent. The work of government agencies to fight hunger, help with access to clean drinking water and sanitation, fight malaria, HIV, and Tuberculosis are not goals that I think very many ideologues would oppose.

In the meantime, let's stop kicking a dead horse. This debate is over and those who opposed it won. Congratulations.

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Jul 23, 2009 10:02:31 GMT -6 Sir C. M. Siervicül said:

Jul 23, 2009 7:49:56 GMT -6 Adm. T.M. Asmourescu, O. Ben. said:

Or those who feel S:reu Tzaracomprada is incapable of choosing worthy causes which would not cause political controversy.

Considering that Talossa has everything from socialists to libertarians bordering on anarchists, is there such a thing?

If socialists, libertarians and anarchists cannot agree that world hunger needs to end, or that areas devastated by natural disasters need financial relief or that there are countless diseases that can be researched so that perhaps one day we can find a cure. If every single one of those has to be politicized, then I feel very very sorry for the individual and certainly hope that if a hurricane blows the roof of their house off, they will not be denied aid because they belong to the "wrong" political party.

[Xhorxh Asmour]

I'd give full support to this bill if it established privately provided relief aid,
creating an organization (NGO) for that purpose. It would be supported by private donations and public funds too.

[Ieremiac'h Ventrutx]

Talossa giving funds to another Government to assist in aid to their citizens is one thing, this withdrawn bill is something not quite to that level. To repeat a seemingly missed point, the issue truly is not black and white as some would make it seem. The attempt to villanize someone because they don't agree with your point of view is a typical extreme approach.

The Dandelion project has already impacted a generation of Talossan's that were BORN Talossan. How dare you belittle that project! Why would you openly mock and attack the training and education of our next generation of Talossans?

Do you not realize the Space project legitimately exists. The Talossan flag proudly displayed for an international community viewing the project. Again you choose to attack a working agency.

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As for the "hurricane blows the roof of your house" comment. I would hope that NO Talossan has to experience that or other natural disaster so that you may prove your point.

I am disappointed with the disrespect and handling of the failure of this proposed piece of legislation....

[Breneir Itravilatx]

...And he continues to flog the dead horse. Full of class, Senator.

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As for the "hurricane blows the roof of your house" comment. I would hope that NO Talossan has to experience that or other natural disaster so that you may prove your point.

I am disappointed with the disrespect and handling of the failure of this proposed piece of legislation....

Isn't this the guy who tried to play the martyr all through the General Election (and would have succeeded if he hadn't botched the PM job so horribly) ?

The issue is settled, my disappointment lies in your inability to do something productive. Instead, you turn a hypothetical statement into an accusation that I am wishing a hurricane upon people.

I am offended.

[Flip Molinar]

I ask the Honorable MC to clark this act.