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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on May 27, 2014 11:13:00 GMT -6
every person in the country's jurisdiction Well, that's exactly the cause for my doubts. We are not in control of our own territory, so I'd say that our jurisdiction is exactly this: Talossan citizens. If we were in control of our own territory, it would also extend to Cestoûrs and visitors in Talossa. In no way can I see that people would fall under Talossan jurisdiction just because they communicate electronically with citizens. Wittenberg is emphatically not Talossa. It's a web forum we use to communicate with each other.
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
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Talossan Since: 9-23-2012
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on May 27, 2014 11:20:31 GMT -6
Oh, get off your high horse. You know exactly at what angle I aimed my comparison, so do not try to twist it around, thank you. And, quite to the contrary, I might add, can I relate better to the Middle East mentality, which you cannot, I assume. So by saying that it were insulting, you are insulting a part of my heritage. While I do condemn the Sharia law, the blind Muslim-ity, any kinds of death penalties, and an absolute monarchy (fiercely so!), nothing in my text alluded to any of these. If you read carefully, without twisting my words, you'll see that I talk aboute "civil rights" and "rights to a fair process/trial" of non-citizens. Again, thus, I pray: get off your high horse of rhetorics, there. I am insulting you? I never said anything about you or your people (though I believe you are Turkish not Saudi), specifically. I said I was insulted that a democratic monarchy can be so easily compared to an absolute monarchy that terrorizes its own people. Non-citizens should have extremely limited rights in our nation - we have no control over them and how can we force them to, for example, enter our courts or abide by our laws while "present" here? They can't get onto Witt so how can they be "present" and thus be abused by our laws? 99.9% of non-citizens have no idea we even exist.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on May 27, 2014 12:35:48 GMT -6
Okay, wait... let's remember that these are the Covenants. They are difficult to change, and may stay in this form for a very long time. Talossa could change remarkably in the future, and who is to say the shape of things to come? It is reasonable to extend many rights to non-citizens, in the event of a future possibility of abuse, even if there is virtually no such possibility now. Even if it's a little silly and just spinning our legal wheels in pursuit of a larger ideal, that's actually completely okay with me. A lot of fun Talossan legislation and discussions comes from such silliness, and it's cool.
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