Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 21, 2014 22:37:15 GMT -6
As the Mençéi of the Senäts, I feel it is my duty to bring this question to to floor of the Chamber, for discussion.
WHEREAS Clause 8 of "The Umpteenth Immigration Reform Act" (35RZ22) states that "At any time before a Grant of Citizenship is conferred, the Sovereign, or members representing at least one-third of the Cosâ by seats, or members representing at least one-third of the Senäts, or any single Justice of the Uppermost Cort may petition the Chancery that the said Grant of Citizenship shall not be issued until such issuance shall be ordered by an act of the Ziu. The Secretary of State shall be required to grant all such petitions, and shall withhold any issuance of a Royal Grant of Citizenship to the prospective immigrant who is the subject of such a petition until such time as an act of the Ziu directing the issuance of such a grant becomes law."
THEREFORE I, Mick Preston, as Senator representing the greatest Province in the Kingdom of Talossa -Maritiimi-Maxhestic , hereby move that the Senäts block the immigration application of the former citizen known formally as Eiric S. Börnatfiglheu (and informally as "ESB").
Signed,
Capt. Sir Mick Preston Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic;
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 21, 2014 22:40:50 GMT -6
I ask that the formal discussion of this Motion now be presented for debate, discussion, and ultimately a vote.
I ask that every Senator be given time to present their position on the Motion. If further questions from other Distinguished Members of our Chamber wish to question a statement by a fellow Senator, I ask that the request time on the floor and be acknowledged by the Chair.
Thank you.
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Trotxâ
Talossan since 10-17-2005; Knight since 11-5-2006
Deo duce, ferro comitante
Posts: 1,574
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Post by Trotxâ on Jan 21, 2014 23:51:17 GMT -6
Esteemed Mençéi; I second the motion that the Senäts block the immigration application of the former citizen known formally as Eiric S. Börnatfiglheu and informally as "ESB". I have presented my thoughts on this issue here. This is happening too soon, and it is going too fast. Signed, Trotxâ Betiñéir, Senator for Vuode
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 22, 2014 2:51:10 GMT -6
Estimat Mencei: I wish to heartily disagree with this motion and intend to vote AGAINST on it, and if it passes, go to the Uppermost Cort for an injunction on the grounds that to block an ex-citizen who has criminal charges pending from re-entry is tantamount to a Bill of Attainder and thus invalid under OrgLaw X,8. More reasoning is available here.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 22, 2014 23:38:23 GMT -6
I believe that in private discussion with the Senator from Fiova, she now understands why I presented this motion.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 23, 2014 0:36:31 GMT -6
While I will still vote against this motion, I am persuaded that it will cause no great constitutional mischief - if, after his citizenship is blocked, E. Börnatfiglheu is tried before the Uppermost Cort, and that the Ziu does not thereafter seek to impose greater penalty on him than that which the Cort hands down. In other words, that if the Cort does not impose a sentence of deprival of citizenship, the Ziu will authorise Eiric to regain his citizenship.
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Brad Holmes
Cunstaval to Maritiimi-Maxhestic
Atatürkey, and flying by the seat of my RUMP
Posts: 1,014
Talossan Since: 3-16-2006
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Post by Brad Holmes on Jan 23, 2014 13:19:45 GMT -6
I third Sir Capt Mick's motion.
Sir T summed up the issue quite well.
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Post by Tric'hard Carschaleir on Jan 24, 2014 7:34:00 GMT -6
After reading Sir Trotxâ's statement and a lot of careful thought, I think I'll second Mick's motion. It's sad but we can't allow an element who betrayed our trust in that way to have a second shot at it.
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