The Talossan Translator's Corps Act

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

And I should clarify that I don't mean "ministerial" in the sense of a government minister (cabinet member), but one performing ministerial acts.

[Iustì Carlüs Canun]

Apr 20, 2013 8:41:13 GMT -6 Viteu Marcianüs said:

Apr 19, 2013 21:02:40 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

Wow, Viteu, you always take everything I write as a personal insult.

I say it again: I would work as a mail carrier in the US, or indeed in any role where the State paid my wages, but I wouldn't work in a position of political authority under the Obama administration because I disagree with his politics and won't support them. Does that make things clearer?

You know what, you're not even worth debating with until you can learn a bit about civility and learn how to not be so damn condescending. I'm done trying to reach out to you.

Don't make me get the hose, you two...

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

Apr 19, 2013 15:17:48 GMT -6 Iustì Carlüs Canun said:

Apr 19, 2013 13:27:26 GMT -6 M.T. Patritz da Biondeu said:

Why not just make Büreu del Glheþ Talossan an independent body controlled by the Ziu?

Now that this has been said, I'd actually rather do it this way. If we want to move the Büreu out from under the MinCult, that'd probably be better.

I'd be fine with doing that.

[Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă]

Apr 22, 2013 7:42:00 GMT -6 C. Carlüs Xheraltescù said:

Apr 19, 2013 15:17:48 GMT -6 Iustì Carlüs Canun said:

Now that this has been said, I'd actually rather do it this way. If we want to move the Büreu out from under the MinCult, that'd probably be better.

I'd be fine with doing that.

I think I said this before, but it works for me. However, I still see no reason why the translator's corp has to be severed from the government as they are translating government documents.

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

I believe I and others have explained why this is a problem; some people object to being a part of the government, and so I want an organisation that operates above party politics. I want an organisation that doesn't depend on who is appointed to the Ministry of Culture.

[Deleted]

Apr 22, 2013 8:45:37 GMT -6 C. Carlüs Xheraltescù said:

I believe I and others have explained why this is a problem; some people object to being a part of the government, and so I want an organisation that operates above party politics. I want an organisation that doesn't depend on who is appointed to the Ministry of Culture.

But is at the mercy of whoever controls the Ziu?

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

The Ziu includes the Senate, which supposedly isn't dominated by party politics. I see that as sufficient enough a safeguard. If people would rather take away Ziu nomination of members, that's fine by me, but nobody's suggested it yet.

[M.T. Patritz da Biondeu]

I can get behind this if the Bureau is just taken out from underneath the Ministry of Culture. I don't see the point creating more departments with duplicate responsibilities.



WHEREAS the language of our proud nation is undeniably important to all citizens, and

WHEREAS it's SO important that all our important documents should be readable in Talossan, and

WHEREAS whilst one cannot legislate for all aspects of culture, the cultural benefits of translating our official documents into Talossan would no doubt be quite substantial, and

WHEREAS an active translator's team filled with members would reduce the workload on certain individuals, and

WHEREAS it would give people stuff to do that doesn't involve front-line politics, now

THEREFORE be it enacted by the Ziu that the Büreu del Glheþ Talossan is hereby removed from the Ministry of Culture and turned in to an independent office responsible to the Ziu. It will be tasked with translating official or historical documents into el glheþ Talossan. Any Talossan citizen may be nominated as a Translator in the Büreu del Glheþ Talossan by act of the Ziu or by prime dictate.

FURTHERMORE the Büreu del Glheþ Talossan shall elect from its members a First Translator who will preside over the Büreu del Glheþ Talossan. The Büreu del Glheþ Talossan may otherwise structure itself as it sees fit.

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

I was actually in the process of amending the original text of the bill. Bear with me...

[M.T. Patritz da Biondeu]

What's wrong with mine?! *throws down his manbag and walks away* Just kidding. Can't wait to see it!

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

It's very similar, as it happens. I suppose when we both had the same thing in mind there were bound to be similarities... ;D

EDIT: The text of the act has been updated

[M.T. Patritz da Biondeu]

As written currently, I'd love to be a sponsor.

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

I'll add you immediately.

[Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă]

The Cabinet Refinishng Act states:

"The Büreu del Glheþ Talossán (Language Bureau), administered by the Ladintsch Naziunál. This Bureau shall specifically promote the use of the Talossan language, shall work in concert with all extra-governmental societies and groups to do the same, and shall advise the Department of the Census in the Chancery regarding the creation of Talossan names for citizens who request them."

Unless we want to make a muddle of our laws, this portion of 36RZ17 needs to be amended. Also, I would be loathe to vote in favor of this new act unless the Bureau has the same or similar responsibilities as currently described under law.

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

I see no reason why these new duties can't be simply be added to the existing ones. I'll make sure the bill provides such a provision to ensure that this is the case.