Flip Molinar
Talossan since 1-1-2008
Proud Talossan
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Post by Flip Molinar on Jan 10, 2013 11:23:23 GMT -6
I display my arms for Talossa and for all my countrymen, not just the king, although it is for him as well.
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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Jan 10, 2013 11:29:50 GMT -6
I display my arms for Talossa and for all my countrymen, not just the king, although it is for him as well. You have arms because Talossa is a monarchy. No king = no coats of arms. And coats of arms are one of the coolest parts of Talossa, and one of the parts which would go out the window were the monarchy abolished. |
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
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Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
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Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 10, 2013 11:34:45 GMT -6
I display my arms for Talossa and for all my countrymen, not just the king, although it is for him as well. You have arms because Talossa is a monarchy. No king = no coats of arms. And coats of arms are one of the coolest parts of Talossa, and one of the parts which would go out the window were the monarchy abolished. In that the CoA do not become official until the King approves them, and grants the citizen the right to display them. No King = No CoA. |
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Flip Molinar
Talossan since 1-1-2008
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Post by Flip Molinar on Jan 10, 2013 11:41:18 GMT -6
I know.
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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Jan 10, 2013 11:50:05 GMT -6
And yet you claim no loyalty to the institution of the monarchy. Riiight.
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Flip Molinar
Talossan since 1-1-2008
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Post by Flip Molinar on Jan 10, 2013 11:52:04 GMT -6
I'm loyal to the Monarch as I am to any other Talossa so I do not care who grants them.
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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Jan 10, 2013 11:55:38 GMT -6
But you oppose the idea of monarchy. Is it not hypocritical to display one of the very trappings of the thing you claim to oppose?
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Óïn Ursüm
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Post by Óïn Ursüm on Jan 10, 2013 11:59:56 GMT -6
To be fair, there are republics which grant coats of arms: Ireland and South Africa.
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Flip Molinar
Talossan since 1-1-2008
Proud Talossan
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Post by Flip Molinar on Jan 10, 2013 12:00:39 GMT -6
I don't oppose monarchy, I just prefer that Talossa become a republic. If it doesn't, then I can live with it.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 10, 2013 12:05:24 GMT -6
To be fair, there are republics which grant coats of arms: Ireland and South Africa. Iusti pointed that out to me, I stand corrected. |
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Post by Andreas Lorentz on Jan 10, 2013 12:19:59 GMT -6
I display my arms for Talossa and for all my countrymen, not just the king, although it is for him as well. You have arms because Talossa is a monarchy. No king = no coats of arms. And coats of arms are one of the coolest parts of Talossa, and one of the parts which would go out the window were the monarchy abolished. Bullshit. Nobody needs a King to have a coat of arms. I could invent several in the next couple of minutes, and you couldn't stop me. I don't need your permission to change my avatar dealie thingamabob. What is so "cool" about medievalism, anyway? Are we going to march against Jerusalem with our banners flying from our lances? Are we going to heave our longswords from their scabbards and decapitate our enemies? Coats of arms are hardly something to celebrate, as they hearken back to a very, very bad time. Feudalism was not our best era, human-wise speaking. |
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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on Jan 10, 2013 12:27:26 GMT -6
You have arms because Talossa is a monarchy. No king = no coats of arms. And coats of arms are one of the coolest parts of Talossa, and one of the parts which would go out the window were the monarchy abolished. Bullshit. Nobody needs a King to have a coat of arms. I could invent several in the next couple of minutes, and you couldn't stop me. I don't need your permission to change my avatar dealie thingamabob. What is so "cool" about medievalism, anyway? Are we going to march against Jerusalem with our banners flying from our lances? Are we going to heave our longswords from their scabbards and decapitate our enemies? Coats of arms are hardly something to celebrate, as they hearken back to a very, very bad time. Feudalism was not our best era, human-wise speaking. There are many reasons we need to abolish the monarchy. Monarchists spouting ignorant claptrap like this is one of them. |
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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Jan 10, 2013 12:31:56 GMT -6
To be fair, there are republics which grant coats of arms: Ireland and South Africa. Iusti pointed that out to me, I stand corrected. Hooligan told me about Ireland. Didn't know about South Africa. It still ranks among the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. Also, I point out that those are both former parts of an empire who decided to boot the monarch but keep the heraldry because it was neat. But I suppose I can understand wanting to have one's cake and eat it too. On the other hand, most people in Ireland and South Africa are citizens thereof because they were born there, right? You're in Talossa voluntarily. I certainly don't have a gun to your head keeping you here, nor does anyone else. I'm here because I want to be, because I think monarchies and knights and counts and dukes and barons and coats of arms are cool, and I think the world would be a much cooler place with more monarchies (albeit constitutional ones like Talossa). There are probably only four currently reigning monarchs (Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Swaziland, and the Vatican) that, were it up to me, would no longer be monarchs. You immigrated, you swore an oath to the King and to the nation. So what I'm saying, I guess, is this: If you find the idea of a monarchy, and all the stuff that goes with it, so repulsive, so abhorrent, then... What the hell are you doing here? |
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Post by Andreas Lorentz on Jan 10, 2013 12:32:46 GMT -6
Bullshit. Nobody needs a King to have a coat of arms. I could invent several in the next couple of minutes, and you couldn't stop me. I don't need your permission to change my avatar dealie thingamabob. What is so "cool" about medievalism, anyway? Are we going to march against Jerusalem with our banners flying from our lances? Are we going to heave our longswords from their scabbards and decapitate our enemies? Coats of arms are hardly something to celebrate, as they hearken back to a very, very bad time. Feudalism was not our best era, human-wise speaking. There are many reasons we need to abolish the monarchy. Monarchists spouting ignorant claptrap like this is one of them. Agreed, but I was afraid to say it. Secretaries of State scare the hell out of me; there's so much power there. ;D |
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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Jan 10, 2013 12:37:23 GMT -6
Agreed, but I was afraid to say it. Secretaries of State scare the hell out of me; there's so much power there. ;D MUAHAHAHAHAHA! *twirls invisible mustache maniacally* |
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