Martì Vataldestreça: Request for Arms

[Martì Vataldestreça]

My name is Martì Vataldestreça (Martin Harvey in the vulgar speech), descendant of such esteemed families as the Stones and Broughtons of Buckinghamshire, the Funnells and Harmers of Sussex and the Evanses of who knows where.

If it so please the Squirrel King of Arms, I request the assistance of the College is designing and obtaining arms for myself and my lawful heirs.

My favourite colour is orange, or the nearest heraldically correct equivalent. I like learning in general and languages in particular, as well as space/astronomy.

And owls.

I am neglecting to request any reference to my county of birth (Buckinghamshire), as my research has indicated to me that, to paraphrase Jesus Jones, I come from everywhere*

*unless it's north of Birmingham

[Hooligan]

From and for The Royal Talossan College of Arms

Azul Martì --

As Squirrel King of Arms, I am pleased to accept your request for assistance in designing arms. I now charge the Penzance Pursuivant, Dean of the College, with assigning one of the Fellows of the College to provide that assistance.

Rouge Lobster Herald
Squirrel King of Arms

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Greetings!

As the Dean of the College, I have asked The Jolly Good Fellow to assist you with your request.

He should be contacting your in the very near future, to begin the request.

[Béneditsch Ardpresteir, O.SPM.]

Azul Martì !

I'd be happy to help you with your CoA. We cant have an Orange, but a Red(Gules) or Gold(Or) can be used. So, if your orange is slightly off colour, I think it can be accommodated as a colour or metal (as may be required).

Now to the basic questions -
Any preference? Any specific design?
Any object that interests you just too much?
Anything that you identify yourself with?

[Martì Vataldestreça]

Azul, Béneditsch, and thanks for accepting this task.

If I can't have orange, then or will do. I'd like it combined with sable, if possible. I quite like the idea of having a lozengy pattern, but I'm concerned it might look a little bit de trop. If I were to go along the lozengy path, then I'd probably make use of an inescutcheon. If not, then maybe a bordure of either sable or or.

Other ideas are to use a chevron (or possibly even a per chevron) or a gyrony of 12.

As for charges, I guess an owl (or a book) surrounded by 7 mullets might be a good place to start (as I am interested in space and have a soft spot for the Pleiades).

What are your thoughts?

Martì

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Just a warning - So far you are offering a lot of ideas, which is good. But you must take into account the "Rule of Complexity".

[Béneditsch Ardpresteir, O.SPM.]

Its morning here right now.. will look at in the day end. I'll take care of complexities...

[Martì Vataldestreça]

Nov 4, 2012 20:52:01 GMT -6 Capt. Sir Mick Preston said:

Just a warning - So far you are offering a lot of ideas, which is good. But you must take into account the "Rule of Complexity".

Yes, I think a lozengy pattern might be too much. Is there anything to stop me combining, say, a bordure and a per chevron?

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Nov 5, 2012 5:35:46 GMT -6 Martì Vataldestreça said:

Nov 4, 2012 20:52:01 GMT -6 Capt. Sir Mick Preston said:

Just a warning - So far you are offering a lot of ideas, which is good. But you must take into account the "Rule of Complexity".

Yes, I think a lozengy pattern might be too much. Is there anything to stop me combining, say, a bordure and a per chevron?

A party per chevron and a bordure have been done before - for example, Michael Beehan's and Ciedeir Vitxalmour Cólluej CoA's have both. Remember, though that the complexity level would already be 4 with just those two ( plus the two tinctures).

[Béneditsch Ardpresteir, O.SPM.]

How do you like this simple one?

red(gules) stars(mullets) on orange(or) base; and an owl Golden(or) on black (sable) base

3 tincures, 2 charges, 1 division = 6 points

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[Béneditsch Ardpresteir, O.SPM.]

Substituted with Custom Colour 254-157-4 (Bright California Gold) for Orange
[see: simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_(color) ]

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[Martì Vataldestreça]

I love it! I especially like the arrangement of the mullets above the party per chevron - looks almost like a starry night in the mountains - two things I love.

If I could have the second version, that'd be great.

Thanks very much

Martì

[Béneditsch Ardpresteir, O.SPM.]

Nov 6, 2012 16:18:16 GMT -6 Martì Vataldestreça said:

I love it! I especially like the arrangement of the mullets above the party per chevron - looks almost like a starry night in the mountains - two things I love.

If I could have the second version, that'd be great.

Thanks very much

Martì

Wow! that was fast. I congratulate you (and me).

The first one seemed 'Orange' and couldn't have passed for 'Or', so the second version was drawn up with a tincture that was a shade of Gold - Bright Californian Gold.

I'll have the Petition ready in sometime ... though the next honours day is quite far off... so you'll have to wait for your grant.

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Just received word from above -

The tincture isn't going to work .

Both the bird and the section of the CoA above the chevron need to be the same version of "or". And that means more yellow. Orange isn't going to be accepted, even if it's called by a different name.

Also, there needs to be more contrast between the mullets and the background.

As for the owl - recommendation is something more akin to this:

www.themcs.org/heraldry/owl.gif

[Béneditsch Ardpresteir, O.SPM.]

Nov 7, 2012 10:18:13 GMT -6 Capt. Sir Mick Preston said:

Just received word from above -
The tincture isn't going to work .

Both the bird and the section of the CoA above the chevron need to be the same version of "or". And that means more yellow. Orange isn't going to be accepted, even if it's called by a different name.

That's sad because the tincture used was a shade of 'Gold' (had also given reference to the same)

Agreed that both the 'gold' used be same for both the charge as well as the field.

Don't know about more yellow... but have used the proper/ standard 'gold' hue in MS Paint for both. I dont think a more yellow field or charge is desired.

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Nov 7, 2012 10:18:13 GMT -6 Capt. Sir Mick Preston said:

Just received word from above -

Also, there needs to be more contrast between the mullets and the background.

have not changed the hue of the mullets in this one, but since the base changes, the contrast increases.

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Nov 7, 2012 10:18:13 GMT -6 Capt. Sir Mick Preston said:

Just received word from above -

As for the owl - recommendation is something more akin to this:

www.themcs.org/heraldry/owl.gif

I do not agree, the owl used in the diagram is the Talossan owl from a previously granted arms... in case it is required to be changed then the previous armiger may also be called in to re-forge his escutcheon and stitch his coat of arms.

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