What action should Talossa take in the future?

[Mr. Tony Weckström]

As your Royal Ambassador to Finland, I was approached by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for the micronation Principality of New Texas.

They offered a Royal Invitation to the King; to visit the Royal Ranch in Texas.

See invitation: www.principality-of-new-texas.us/TALOSSA/ROYAL_INVITATION-TALOSSA_by-way-of-Ambassador-Weckstrom.jpg

Our policy at this point is NOT to recognize these micronations, but shall we always keep this policy - or should we re-evaluate our positions?

Talossans, what are your opinions?

Kind regards,

Tony Weckström,
Ambassador to Finland
President of DPD party

[Xhorxh Asmour]

Maybe one or two important options are missing, Sir.
Guess what?

[Vit Caçeir]

For the time being, I see no beneficial purpose for the Kingdom to formally recognize any micronations.

That's just me, though.

[Flip Molinar]

No way. That to me is just like the US recognizing Lovely. If we want to be a real country, don't do it. If we are a fantasy role play nation, go ahead.

[Vit Caçeir]

Oct 4, 2008 20:06:32 GMT -6 Flip Molinar said:

No way. That to me is just like the US recognizing Lovely. If we want to be a real country, don't do it. If we are a fantasy role play nation, go ahead.

You have to admit though, Lovely is pretty frickin cool.

[Flip Molinar]

Oct 4, 2008 20:28:51 GMT -6 Vit Caçeir said:

Oct 4, 2008 20:06:32 GMT -6 Flip Molinar said:

No way. That to me is just like the US recognizing Lovely. If we want to be a real country, don't do it. If we are a fantasy role play nation, go ahead.

You have to admit though, Lovely is pretty frickin cool.

Granted. I just don't see relations with them. ;D

[Vit Caçeir]

Oct 4, 2008 20:06:32 GMT -6 Flip Molinar said:

No way. That to me is just like the US recognizing Lovely. If we want to be a real country, don't do it..

On a serious note though, if the nation were to recognize say... Kosovo, Abkhazia, South Oseetia, etc. (all of which I would be against, but that's another story), would those legally be "micronations", since they aren't U.N. recognized states and are recognized by a minute number of U.N. member states? What exactly is the legal basis of a "micronation"?

[Flip Molinar]

Recognition by a UN member state.

[Vit Caçeir]

If that is truly the legal basis of a micronation, wouldn't that mean then that the Kingdom's recognition of Somaliland is illegal?

Although it is de facto independent, does hold informal relations with a handful of countries, and SHOULD be legitimate in the opinions of many, it has yet to receive formal recognition from any member state of the United Nations.

[Deleted]

Tony, if it means that much to you, why don't you just propose some legislation during the next Cosa?

[Flip Molinar]

It's not illegal, it just doesn't count for much in the eyes of the international community.

[Vit Caçeir]

Alright, found the legal status of a micronation in the Statutory Law. Not the easiest task in the world, since the bill titles are nonspecific...

Oct 4, 2008 21:28:50 GMT -6 @37RZ2 - The What's the Difference Act said:

A micronation is hereby legally defined to be any society of persons (whether claiming territorial sovereignty or not) that

1. claims a governmental organization and citizenry and
2. is not a member of the United Nations and
3. is not a member of the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization and
4. is not officially recognized by the Kingdom of Talossa.

Somaliland is a member of UNPO, so it would meet the criteria required to be a 'legit' nation, as would Kosovo. However, Abkhazia ad South Ossetia would not.

So I just corrected myself. Which I'm pretty sure makes me incredibly lame.

But moving on... The "What's the Difference" Act seems like a pretty solid law. So moving back to the original topic of this thread, I reaffirm my opinion that no reform regarding micronations is required.

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

Oct 4, 2008 11:29:17 GMT -6 Mr. Tony Weckström said:

As your Royal Ambassador to Finland, I was approached by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for the micronation Principality of New Texas.

Is the job of an ambassador to conduct relations with the country to which he has been credentialed by implementing the foreign policy established by the government, as directed by the Foreign Minister and Seneschal? Or is it to go over the heads of said superiors and lobby the general population to change the government's foreign policy?

And what exactly does the "Principality of New Texas" have to do with Finno-Talossan relations?

[Mr. Tony Weckström]

Oct 5, 2008 10:14:13 GMT -6 Sir C. M. Siervicül said:

Oct 4, 2008 11:29:17 GMT -6 Mr. Tony Weckström said:

As your Royal Ambassador to Finland, I was approached by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for the micronation Principality of New Texas.

Is the job of an ambassador to conduct relations with the country to which he has been credentialed by implementing the foreign policy established by the government, as directed by the Foreign Minister and Seneschal? Or is it to go over the heads of said superiors and lobby the general population to change the government's foreign policy?

And what exactly does the "Principality of New Texas" have to do with Finno-Talossan relations?

Dear Sir, as Ambassador, and a representative of Talossa, I cannot control who contacts me, and when.

Just like anyone can write a letter to the Prime minister of the UK, there's just no control in these matters.

The principality found me through the Talossan Embassy website info at www.embassyoftalossa-fin.org/

So I do not see the problem of relaying the messages I receive as your ambassador?

Is this something to be held against me?

Kind regards,
Tony Weckström
Royal Ambassador to Finland
President of the DPD

[Vit Caçeir]

Oct 5, 2008 12:18:23 GMT -6 Mr. Tony Weckström said:

Is this something to be held against me?

Kind of jumpin' the gun there, eh?