OFFICIAL: Cosâ vote on abdication proposal

[King John]

The Prime Minister has asked me to create this thread, where MCs may vote on the proposed resolution regarding the King's abdication. The text of the resolution follows. Members of the Cosâ, please vote here (or make your votes known to me by some other method, and I'll post them here). I'll tally the votes as they come in.

The proposal requires 134 votes to pass by the legal 2/3.

MC	Seats	Üc	Non
N. Casálmac’h	11	11
S. Casálmac’h	10	10
De Winter	11	11
P. Holdorf	10	10
Holmes	10	10
Simmerman	11	11
Tecladéir	12	12
Walkland	11	11
Wood	10
P. Woolley	11		11
da Bitoûr	11	11
Cheléir	11	11
Iánescu	11	11
Lauriéir	1	1
Nanamavéu	8	8
Oh	8
Preston	11	11
Spyropoulos	11	11
Toctviac'htéir	10	10
Ûnamînd	11	11
TOTAL	200	171	11

— John Woolley, UrN, Secretary of State

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HONORING THE WISHES OF THE KING'S MOTHER—A SORROWFUL RESOLUTION

WHEREAS, King Louis I is not of the age of majority and is not the biological or adopted child of a Talossan citizen and is therefore—under the provisions of the Royal Guardianship Act—considered a ward of the State protected by a Royal Guardianship that is executed jointly by the Ziu and the Cort; and

WHEREAS, the mother of King Louis I—his legal custodian in the United States—has expressed an explicit wish that the Kingdom of Talossa cease recognizing her son as the King of Talossa; and

WHEREAS, it is the considered wisdom of the Ziu that—irrespective of national boundaries—most parents at most times have the best interests of their children in mind and, therefore, that the wishes of parents for their children ought to be given deference whenever possible and with due celerity; and

WHEREAS, the Ziu and the Uppermost Cort of Talossa in their lawful role as the Royal Guardianship are charged to make decisions that protect the best interests of their precious ward,

THEREFORE, the Ziu, acting as part of the Royal Guardianship of King Louis, hereby declares, with great sorrow, that:

His Majesty King Louis I abdicates his Kingship effective upon passage of this resolution by a two-thirds vote in both houses of the legislature and by a unanimous assent by the Uppermost Cort of Talossa as required by law.

Uréu q'estadra så: Samuhél Tecladéir, Prime Minister

[Sir Samuhel Tecladeir]

Üc.

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Üc.

[Sir X. Pol Briga]

Üc.

[Joseph Walkland]

Üc.

- I say so.

[Sir X. Pol Briga]

As many would also be interested in the progress in voting by the Senäts, would the SoS post that poll as well?

[Mataiwos Nanamavéu]

Regretfully Üc.


MN

[King John]

gpaulbailey said:

As many would also be interested in the progress in voting by the Senäts, would the SoS post that poll as well?

I certainly would, if and when the Senäts considers the question.

— John Woolley, UrN, Secretary of State

[Deleted]

Üc.

[Danihel Laurieir]

Returning, head bowed in contemplation, from the Senats chamber where he just heard Senator Woolley deliver a magisterial and plaintive oration on the great subject of the day, the least powerful member of the Cosa rests his cigar in the marble ashtray and puts down his goblet of port and stands:

Fellow members of the Cosa, I rise to encourage everyone in this chamber to read the transcript of the speech that Sir John Woolley just delivered on the floor of the Senats before he or she votes on the question before the legislature.

For now, I will not vote on the issue until at least some of the questions that Senator Woolley poses are answered.

And, if I may be so bold to do so, I would like to propose that the PM use his powers to issue Prime Dictates and immediately create and name a commission charged with determining:

1. Whether or not King Louis's legal guardian in the United States did in fact make a request that Louis not be referred to as King of Talossa.

2. Whether or not the King's legal guardian might—in the case that the legal guardian did in fact express a wish that Louis no longer serve as King—be amenable to being convinced to allow King Louis to continue serving as King.

The committee should also be empowered, if the committee deems it appropriate to do so, to make a brief and polite case to the legal guardian about the value of King Louis continuing to serve as King.

The committee should be required to report back to the Ziu on these matters as soon as possible. I'd recommend that the PM, Sir John and Sir Fritz serve on the commission. And I'd recommended acting with dispatch just in case King Louis' guardian has already expressed her wishes.

There may well be other ways to address the questions raised by Senator Woolley, and as a legislator, I'd welcome hearing some alternatives. In the meantime, I hope that those who have cast their votes on one side or the other of the issue remain open to changing their votes pending further information.

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

rises tenatively, in his accoustmed half crouch.
thinks about it, and stands tall.

Clears throat. Takes a shot of Old Bushmills, just in case

As the Junior Member of the Cosa, and just recently granted Citizenship to the Kingdom of Talossa, I ask that you give me latitude, in that i speak from my heart, and not in the Rules of the Cosa.

I address the concerns of my fellow esteemed MC, Danihél Lauriéir. I do this with utmost respect, and in deference to his standing.

I have read the impassioned speech that Senator Woolley made, and have thought upon it greatly. He makes many fine points. One key point that he makes, is that he does not dispute what our fellow member, Sir Fritz has done. No one questions that. I have the utmost of respect for both Sir Fritz, and Senator Woolley.

But, I ask of you, my fellow members of the Cosa.

I have asked, if our King even knows if he is King. From all I can tell, he does not.

I believe that his biological mother does not want him associated with Talossa at this time.

From my understanding, he was appointed King by someone that does not hold Talossa in high esteem, and even might disavow any connection to our Kingdom.

I am not happy that my first vote ever cast in the Costa is to remove a King. But I find that with everyday, I have increasing difficulty to throw my limited weight behind the continued support of our current King. I find it hard to support one who does not know he is King, is not active as a King, and may never know he is a King.

Please excuse me for my impudence.

silently sits

[Ian da Bitour]

My vote is Üc



--IB--
Member of the Cosâ

[Sir X. Pol Briga]

now not quoted but as a synopsis Sir John Wooley, from his speech in Senäts
We know that Sir Fritz — whose veracity is beyond question — wrote a letter dated September 24 to one "Michelle X (modified 10/25 for privacy)" (at an address we do not know, obtained by means which we have not been told) informing her that we in the Kingdom of Talossa "need your consent as Louis's legal Guardian/Parent" for Louis to continue as King. (This may or may not be accurate, that we needed her consent; I think it is not.)

I am remote from the Greater Talossan Area, but with the hypothesis that Ms. X is actually the legal guardian of Louis and that she lives in the GTA, I made a search and found

X Michelle
on MARION AVE SOUTH MILWAUKEE WI
phone area code (414)
(THIS HAS BEEN MODIFIED TO PROTECT PRIVACY)

I don't have information about whether the surname of Louis would enter into the search, but there are 75 within the bounds of Milwaukee.

I obtained the original information from www.dexonline.com but have modified it in this post.

more from the speech:
I do not believe it is wise for the Kingdom to make big decisions — and this may just be the biggest Constitutional decision the Senäts has ever been called on to make — on the information of a single citizen.

I do not belive my position in the realm nor my lack of proximity to the GTA allow me to be a sufficently credible secondary confirming source, however I am willing to commend any person in the Cosâ to bear a writ from this body in order to generate evidence to establish the legal guardianship and wishes of the natural parents of Louis.

[Bleic'h Ianescu]

With a bowed head and sorrowful heart,

Üc

[Al Simmerman]

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