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Post by Don Deutschmann on Apr 1, 2006 10:55:21 GMT -6
I Don Deutschmann the CLP's mimister of "stuff" hereby vote FOR all alterations to the current laws.
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Danihel Laurieir
Citizen since 7-1981; Count since 2-23-2006
Videbimus Omnes
Posts: 400
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Post by Danihel Laurieir on Apr 6, 2006 19:59:32 GMT -6
Mr. Speaker of the Cosa, my fellow MCs:
I rise to record my votes on the questions before the Cosa:
35RZ31 (adoption repeal) PER 35RZ32 (naval reorg) CONTRA: I believe the PM--not the Monarch--should be commander-in-chief of the Navy. 35RZ33: (prize tribunals): PER 35RZ34: (criminal code): PER
35RZ35: (king must be a cit): PER 35RZ36: (royal adoption): PER 35RZ37: (royal veto): PER 35RZ38: (regency & royal elections): PER
VOC: Yes!
I yield the floor.
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Post by Al Simmerman on Apr 11, 2006 3:48:20 GMT -6
I, Al Simmerman (the hammer) and holder of the Talossan funds, $50.00, vote yes to all the alterations of current law and yes to VOC.
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Baron Fritz
Citizen since 12-7-2004; Knight since 11-30-2005
Posts: 575
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Post by Baron Fritz on Apr 12, 2006 6:54:28 GMT -6
I vote contra on 35RZ32, and per on 31, 33 thru 36. Yes on the VOC. I am in agreement with Justice Lorentz regarding Command of the Navy. Fritz von Buchholtz
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King John
King of Talossa
Posts: 2,415
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Knight Since: 11-30-2005
Motto: COR UNUM
King Since: 3-14-2007
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Post by King John on Apr 12, 2006 16:42:12 GMT -6
My Lords, Ladies, Gentlemen —
The other day, I rashly promised a few words on the group of Bills I submitted to the current Clark — rashly, because (as some of you know) I’ve been really busy. So I will make this brief, briefer than I had intended.
*sighs of relief*
Ahem. My five bills — four of which are proposed amendments — grew out of my thinking recently about the Talossan monarchy, what it is, what it should be, how the powers of the monarch might be misused, and how to encourage their correct use without reducing our Kingdom to little more than a republic with fancy titles.
35RZ31, An Act to Repeal the Royal Adoption, is designed to remove any power our former King might have, in Talossan law, over our current King. It occurred to me that someone might argue that if we repeal Mr. Madison’s “adoption” of King Louis, then King Louis’ ascension to the Throne might come into doubt; so the law contains language specifically to counter that (hypothetical) argument. If this Act passes, Mr. Madison and his wife will have no authority, as far as Talossan law goes, over our King, but King Louis will be undisturbed as King of Talossa.
35RZ35, The King Must Be a Citizen Act, was designed to prevent the potential problem of someone inheriting the Throne who was entirely uninterested in ruling Talossa or participating in our national life. It also fills in a gap in the Organic Law that would have allowed a King (at least arguably) to renounce his citizenship and leave Talossa, but still remain King. If this Act passes, and the nation approves it, nobody except a citizen of Talossa could become King; but once again, King Louis (even though he is not now a citizen) would be entirely unaffected.
With respect to 35RZ36, The Royal Adoptions Act, it occurred to me that the nation should have some control over the adoption of someone who may someday, because of that adoption, inherit the Throne. If this Act passes, and the nation approves it, a royal adoption would require a super-majority of each House of the Ziu. The Talossan constitution would still have the quirky feature — unique, I think, among Western monarchies — of allowing adoption into the royal line; but such an adoption would have to have the broad support of the people.
35RZ37, The No More Partial or Delayed Veto Act, addresses two separate problems in the Organic Law. As the Law stands now, the King can veto only part of an Act, and allow the other part to become law; which would mean that a law could go onto the books that would have been, that perhaps was opposed by a majority of the Ziu. Also, the King could delay announcing a veto of a Bill, leaving the nation in a kind of limbo of uncertainty about what the laws actually are. This Act, if it passes and is approved by the nation, would require the King to veto all of a Bill or none of it, and would require the King’s veto to be exercised in time for the next month’s meeting of the Ziu (or the next month’s election) to take the veto into account.
Finally, 35RZ38, The Regency and Royal Elections Act, clears up the Organic Law’s (rather ambiguous) provisions regarding the appointment of a Regent and the (possible) election of a King. It specifies under what conditions a Regent can be appointed, requires that the Regent must himself be a citizen, specifies that the Ziu can remove a Regent, provides that the King cannot reappoint a Regent unacceptable to the Ziu; and also provides direction on how a King should be elected, in the unhappy event of such an election being necessary.
I urge every Senator and MC (except my friend Senator Betiñéir, who is prevented from voting!), to vote in favour of each of these laws. And I hereby cast my votes “për” on each of the measures under consideration this month, 35RZ31 through 35RZ38.
Thank you for your patience.
— John Woolley, UrN, Senator (Florenciâ)
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Post by Eugene Oh on Apr 14, 2006 23:13:12 GMT -6
My votes for the April Clark are as follows:
35RZ31 - PER 35RZ32 - PER 35RZ33 - CONTRA 35RZ34 - PER 35RZ35 - PER 35RZ36 - CONTRA: adoptions are personal matters and should not be subject to the scrutiny and approval of the public 35RZ37 - PER 35RZ38 - CONTRA: for simplicity's sake, why not just instate the serving PM as Regent?
VOC - UC
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Trotxâ
Talossan since 10-17-2005; Knight since 11-5-2006
Deo duce, ferro comitante
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Post by Trotxâ on Apr 15, 2006 9:59:58 GMT -6
So I will make this brief, briefer than I had intended. The Senator from Cézembre rises to thank the Senator from Florenciâ for his brevity. And for his clarity. Trotxâ
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Post by Nic Casálmac'h on Apr 15, 2006 13:14:09 GMT -6
35RZ31: PER 35RZ32: CONTRA 35RZ33: CONTRA 35RZ34: PER
35RZ35: PER 35RZ36: PER 35RZ37: PER 35RZ38: PER
VOC: UC
-Nic Scofield
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Olaf
Citizen since 8-9-2005
A Bruce Lee of Loosely Abused Ink
Posts: 303
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Post by Olaf on Apr 16, 2006 17:20:36 GMT -6
*whisky glass in one hand, jester's hat momentarily removed, a Florencian MC rises to deliver his votes from the vellum scroll on his desk. Breaths are baited. As usual, he speaks statlily*
Ahem.
Members of the Cosa, Mister Speaker, your patience. My votes as follows:
34RZ31: Per 34RZ32: Per 34RZ33: Per 34RZ34: Per 34RZ35: Per 34RZ36: Per 34RZ37: Per 34RZ38: Per
VOC: Uc
Thank you.
*raises glass, sits back down, looks broodingly at nothing and puts feet up on desk.*
Oliver Brainerd/Olaf...uh, something... (MC, Florencia)
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Brad Holmes
Cunstaval to Maritiimi-Maxhestic
Atatürkey, and flying by the seat of my RUMP
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Talossan Since: 3-16-2006
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Post by Brad Holmes on Apr 16, 2006 23:45:20 GMT -6
35RZ31: PER 35RZ32: CONTRA 35RZ33: PER 35RZ34: PER 35RZ35: PER 35RZ36: PER 35RZ37: PER 35RZ38: PER
VOC: UC
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Nikϋ
Citizen since 1-16-2006
Posts: 138
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Post by Nikϋ on Apr 17, 2006 1:56:03 GMT -6
S:reu Speaker of the Cosa, my fellow MCs, (do Senators sit in the same room? Or are we separated by a wall or other barrier? I'm seated way too deep in my comfortable seat(s) to have a look).
I hereby declare my vote:
34RZ31: Per 34RZ32: Per 34RZ33: Per 34RZ34: Per 34RZ35: Per 34RZ36: Per 34RZ37: Per 34RZ38: Per
VOC: Uc
My apologies for not standing up, which should by no means be seen as an expression of disrespect, but I am feeling kinda rough and in any case I have a loud voice.
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Sir Samuhel Tecladeir
Citizen since 8-22-2005; Knight since 10-23-2006
If you don't rock the boat, no one will know it's sinking.
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Post by Sir Samuhel Tecladeir on Apr 17, 2006 7:40:51 GMT -6
S:reu Speaker of the Cosa, my fellow MCs, (do Senators sit in the same room? Or are we separated by a wall or other barrier? I'm seated way too deep in my comfortable seat(s) to have a look). There's no barrier. Talossa has a transparent authority. For the most part, there's no reason to hide things between [governmental] bodies. My apologies for not standing up, which should by no means be seen as an expression of disrespect, but I am feeling kinda rough and in any case I have a loud voice. Hm, as speaker I note that. In the case that you should toss your cookies, it would be preferable if you remained seated. The janitor hates to clean up those kind of messes (which I think are probably more prevelant in this place than others). However, I should also request that perhaps you wait until you feel better before casting votes. Respect is something we take lightly - I mean seriously - around here.
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Lord Q
Citizen since 5-21-1998; Baron since 2-23-2006
The beatings will continue until morale improves
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Post by Lord Q on Apr 17, 2006 20:00:58 GMT -6
I vote Per on all bills.
Senator Q, Musso
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Hooligan
Squirrel King of Arms; Cunstaval to Maricopa
Posts: 7,325
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Motto: PRIMA CAPIAM POCULA
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Count Since: 9-8-2012
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Post by Hooligan on Apr 17, 2006 23:03:16 GMT -6
The Senator for Vuode rises, clears his throat at some length (a further description of which we will leave out of the record; it wasn't pretty), and announces his votes on the legislation on the current calendar.
34RZ31: Austanéu. 34RZ32: Për. Unlike some of my fellow legislators, I favor the Monarch being the commander-in-chief, and would have supported a provision requiring that the sovereign make a real good rousing speech, such as Henry V's "once more into the breach," before each and every important military engagement. At least when going up against a French dauphin. 34RZ33: Për. The Senator makes this vote while winking slyly at the privateers, which some observers may choose to interpret as indicating, off the record, that the Senator realizes that privateers, having, on average, barely one working eye each, cannot be expected to be very good with the taking of inventories, so it's perfectly understandable if they overlook or miscount some of the things that they might happen across. 34RZ34: Për. No lo contendere, habeus corpus, modus operandi, corpus delecti, en flagrante delecto, oundsay oodgay ootay eemay. 34RZ35: Për. Sensible. 34RZ36: Për. Works for me. 34RZ37: Për. Although I only approve of certain parts of this bill, I agree to it as a whole in the spirit of compromise. 34RZ38: Për. A definitely necessary how-to.
The Senator thereupon yields the floor, delighting the crowd.
Lord Hooligan
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Prince Patrick
Citizen since 8-23-2005; Prince since 3-14-2007; Duke since 8-6-2011
Citizen and Governor of Florencia; His Highness, Prince Patrick, Duke of Florencia
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Post by Prince Patrick on Apr 18, 2006 0:02:23 GMT -6
*Rises slowly, but manages, nevertheless, to push his wheely-chair back several inches further than necessary. Taking a long deep breath, he removes the gnarled butt of cigar from his weathered lips and spits in the brass decanter in front of him. The sharp ping echoes through the hall. He dries the beading sweat from above his eyes with a stained cloth, and proceeds in a thundering, stately voice:* I rise, Mr. Speaker, fellow Members, to record my votes with respect to the April Clark. They are as follows:
35RZ31 (adoption repeal) PER 35RZ32 (naval reorganization): PER; God Save the King! 35RZ33: (prize tribunals): PER 35RZ34: (criminal code): PER 35RZ35: (king must be a citizen): PER 35RZ36: (royal adoption): PER 35RZ37: (royal veto): PER 35RZ38: (regency & royal elections): PER
VOC: Yes!
I Respectfully yield the floor. *Clears his throat and sits as slowly as he first stood. Then, replacing his cigar in his grimacing mouth, he leans far back in his chair and smokes contentedly.*
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