Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Jul 27, 2019 21:25:56 GMT -6
Ok, how about this. You take the leadership position and decide which texts are worthy of a promotion based on length and type, then pass them on to me, I'll give them a read-through, and if they're good, you handle the various bits of bureaucratic machinery required to validate people.
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Jul 27, 2019 21:27:24 GMT -6
Or give them to Tafial or anyone who's posted in the "Solamint el Glheþ" board.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jul 27, 2019 21:46:45 GMT -6
Deal.
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Post by Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu on Jul 28, 2019 0:58:26 GMT -6
My question is, as a proud member of the Navy Board and current Secretary of Defence, if the Talossan language... something created as a dream and passionately pursued in development... what the hell is wrong with doing the same thing with the military, with orders, with other components of the country?!
Not your cup of tea, fine! Leave the people alone that want to develop it! I’m told all the time that Talossa is a kind sandbox where we can take our passions and run with them but every damn time I try and do something, a handful of people bitch and moan and zap the enjoyment out of every endeavor. At least I’m doing something, unlike our Monarch, and I show up and try to do the best to improve the country! Needless to say, I’m tired of the lack of support from my own party and I’m thinking its time to change.
I am resigning, immediately, from the AMP and going to pursue other options and opportunities within Talossa. I am NOT resigning from the Cabinet, since I’m actually making solid progress in Foreign! Nor am I resigning from SecDef or the Corps. I think it’s time to shake things up in my life a bit and start a new.
Speaking of starting anew, John... YOU ARE THE DAMN MONARCH! How about actually being involved or abdicate to allow someone that WILL! Your absence and lack of concern is an embarrassment and like the rest of us, you have a job... but unlike us... you have ONE DAMN JOB! So, show up and get involved! And not just to come in and veto something that rubs you wrong!
As an MC, I am in favor of legislation forcing involvement of the Monarch in the country (eg. minimum number of posts per week/month) or he would face removal from the throne! It’s time to act like a real country and the first step is the Head of State!
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Jul 28, 2019 3:48:47 GMT -6
My question is, as a proud member of the Navy Board and current Secretary of Defence, if the Talossan language... something created as a dream and passionately pursued in development... what the hell is wrong with doing the same thing with the military, with orders, with other components of the country?!Not your cup of tea, fine! Leave the people alone that want to develop it! I’m told all the time that Talossa is a kind sandbox where we can take our passions and run with them but every damn time I try and do something, a handful of people bitch and moan and zap the enjoyment out of every endeavor. At least I’m doing something, unlike our Monarch, and I show up and try to do the best to improve the country! Needless to say, I’m tired of the lack of support from my own party and I’m thinking its time to change. Have you read the reasoning for our opposition, or did you see "Thank you for your work but..." and stopped reading? This is for you too, Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN : any kind of activity is good activity, but we shouldn't embrace a bad proposal without scrutiny just because it's "something". Miestrâ, you're right to scoff at criticism of bipartisan, well-thought OrgLaw reform by people who didn't have the time to scrutinise and engage. Other people did the scrutinising for them and the Ziu recognised that.
But you and your government are absolutely wrong at opposing any debate at all, as if people took pleasure in seeing other ideas fail, instead of being genuinely concerned about the validity of a proposal.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jul 28, 2019 15:46:04 GMT -6
Can I just ask, to begin with, that we stop accusing people of things. I've already been accused by a departing colleague of "throwing him under the bus" simply because I did what the Cabinet Code of Conduct told me to. This goes to what I was trying to point out in another thread about how "everyone has their own standards of abusive content", in other words, "everyone thinks their miéidâ don't stink". This kind of rhetoric (from all parties, including my own) is IHMO abusive and nasty, and definitely increases my feelings of just quitting this country which come on a regular basis. Anyway. You may have thought that by "liking" Txoteu's post, I was endorsing it in full. I was not. Before making this post, I was on a long car drive to a soccer match early in the morning. Txoteu wrote to me on Facebook telling me he was going to resign because of what he saw as the blanket negativity towards whatever he tried to do. Through a fog of fatigue, I talked him out of resigning, and told him to put his thoughts on Wittenberg. I was "liking" the fact that he did that. I suppose I have to say it: 1) it is perfectly valid for people to criticise proposals and suggest amendments, and proponents should take good-faith criticisms in good faith. There is far too much "thin-skinnedness" in Talossa, people unleashing a flamethrower of wrath on quite mild disagreement or even imagined criticism, and "flouncing" (ostentatiously quitting). We need to stop that. 2) there IS a truckload of negativity in Talossa, and SOME people (present company excluded) indeed "take pleasure in seeing other ideas fail". The King, for example, just admitted to timing his irregular interventions into Talossa deliberately to sabotage Government ideas he doesn't like. This is the same King who recently told Txoteu that he wasn't allowed to reform the Navy because previous governments "had fun writing those laws". We need to stop this kind of behaviour too. So let's lay it on the line: - I totally support Txoteu's proposal Honours Reform proposal.
- I totally support all the good-faith amendments suggested to it, and Txoteu should see if any of them are worth taking in rather than just yelling about negativity.
- I remind Txoteu that he is perfectly entitled to ignore any and all critiques, provided we can still get a Ziu majority for this.
- My real worry is that this is one of the things that the King is deliberately refusing to comment on because he intends to wait until we've done all the work, then "parachute in" to destroy it if he doesn't like it because it infringes on his Organic prerogatives. This is precisely why I gave it to him first for comment. And he ostentatiously refused to answer my emails or text messages.
Everyone: take a chill pill.
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Post by Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu on Jul 28, 2019 16:19:12 GMT -6
Hey Guys, I want to clarify. I have gotten to my point of so much frustration and feeling as though I waste my valuable time and efforts here, I was obviously more harsh then I wanted. Good faith and nondestructive amendments are always welcome but I want people to understand, I don’t pull stuff out of my ass. That stopped with NOCA and I swore I’d never waste that kind of time on anything for this county ever again. NOCA was 20 hours of research and work that I’ll never get back and that made it clear that no one was going to approve of something I was will to take on entirely myself.
I modeled the Honours system off the Canadian Honours program, though very much simplified. I didn’t get much of a vibe from anyone in this review other than a) this is stupid, why would we do this? or b) we already have something, why improve? That was my perspective. I’m REALLY used to “A” around here and as for “B”, we’ve been around for four decades, we have passed thousands of pieces of legislation. If your argument is why improve, we should just absolve the Ziu now and just vote on actual needed issues as a nation. One vote per citizen and let the Cabinet run the country.
All I’d like to see is people stop blocking everything not in their wheelhouse just cause it ain’t their thing.
Thanks, Txoteu
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
Posts: 4,001
Talossan Since: 3-21-2015
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Jul 28, 2019 16:29:21 GMT -6
That stopped with NOCA and I swore I’d never waste that kind of time on anything for this county ever again. NOCA was 20 hours of research and work that I’ll never get back and that made it clear that no one was going to approve of something I was will to take on entirely myself. We just overrode the King's veto on this, FYI. It's the law; congratulations!
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Post by Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu on Jul 28, 2019 17:05:37 GMT -6
No, the original NOCA was a full military code of ranks, rates, positions and structure. It was voted down with the vibe being it was a waste of time and added nothing to the country.
I was done with long legislative actions. I revised it to the one you resubmitted after the revision was voted down. It’s literally the reason I’m not huge on creating legislation, I’m a Grad Student... I have more important things to do than waste my time on anything I’m passionate about that involves the Ziu and will get canned anyway.
The negative environment of the Ziu makes people not want to be involved. Hence why I’m busy in MinFor, I know Miestra appreciates my work
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
Posts: 4,001
Talossan Since: 3-21-2015
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Jul 28, 2019 17:22:29 GMT -6
No, the original NOCA was a full military code of ranks, rates, positions and structure. It was voted down with the vibe being it was a waste of time and added nothing to the country. I was done with long legislative actions. I revised it to the one you resubmitted after the revision was voted down. It’s literally the reason I’m not huge on creating legislation, I’m a Grad Student... I have more important things to do than waste my time on anything I’m passionate about that involves the Ziu and will get canned anyway. The negative environment of the Ziu makes people not want to be involved. Hence why I’m busy in MinFor, I know Miestra appreciates my work This is actually exactly why the revised version of the NOCA is so much better than the original. You can still have your full table of ranks, but because it will be in a separate military code rather than el Lexhatx, the Ziu doesn't have to approve every time you want to change anything. It can belong to the people who care about it, rather than the people who don't.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Aug 7, 2019 10:14:11 GMT -6
Ok, how about this. You take the leadership position and decide which texts are worthy of a promotion based on length and type, then pass them on to me, I'll give them a read-through, and if they're good, you handle the various bits of bureaucratic machinery required to validate people. Is this happening? I know that the Seneschal promised to back your plans to the hilt, so I was hopeful.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Sept 5, 2019 17:22:37 GMT -6
Yes, no?
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Sept 5, 2019 17:38:10 GMT -6
Answer the good man, Iac
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Sept 5, 2019 18:31:09 GMT -6
Ok, how about this. You take the leadership position and decide which texts are worthy of a promotion based on length and type, then pass them on to me, I'll give them a read-through, and if they're good, you handle the various bits of bureaucratic machinery required to validate people. Is this happening? I know that the Seneschal promised to back your plans to the hilt, so I was hopeful. I'd like for it to happen, of course. Whether/when it does happen is entirely decided by when you start either PMing me or emailing me texts to examine.
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Sept 5, 2019 18:35:23 GMT -6
In other words, it happens when you make it happen.
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