King John
King of Talossa
Posts: 2,415
Talossan Since: 5-7-2005
Knight Since: 11-30-2005
Motto: COR UNUM
King Since: 3-14-2007
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Post by King John on Jan 4, 2016 12:59:29 GMT -6
We JOHN by the Grace of God King of Talossa and of all its Realms and Regions, King of Cézembre, Sovereign Lord and Protector of Pengöpäts and the New Falklands, Defender of the Faith, Leader of the Armed Forces, Viceroy of Hoxha and Vicar of Atatürk, having thought fit to dissolve this present forty-eighth Cosa of the Kingdom of Talossa, do to that end publish this Our proclamation royal, hereby dissolving the said Cosa accordingly; and do discharge and excuse the Members of that Cosa from their meeting and attendance thereat from Tuesday the twenty-second day of December ultimo. And We being desirous and resolved for the better governance of these Our realms to have the advice of Our people in the Ziu assembled, do hereby make known to all Our loyal commons, knights, and nobles Our royal will and pleasure to call and assemble a new Cosa, and do hereby further declare that We have given order that Our Chancery and Secretary of State do forthwith issue out writs and ballots in due form, and according to law, for the election of a new forty-ninth Cosa as well as Senators for the provinces of Maricopa, Fiova, Maritiimi-Maxhestic, and Cézembre. Further, We desire at this time most heartily to thank and congratulate, on Our own behalf and that of the entire Talossan nation, the citizens who served in this now-dissolved forty-eighth Cosa, especially thanking S:reu C. Carlüs Xheraltescu for his faithful service as Our Seneschal, Dame Miestra Schiva for her continuing service as our (most recent) Distain, and all the other members of the Government. Further thanks are due to Dame Miestra and S:reux Munditenens Tresplet, Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun, and Txosue Roibeardescu whose present terms in the Senäts will end with the upcoming election. Done under Our hand Royal at the city of Centennial in Colorado this fourth day of January being the eleventh day of Christmas, in the year of salvation 2016, of the independence of Talossa the thirty-seventh, and of Our reign the ninth. — John Regeu
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 4, 2016 13:21:52 GMT -6
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Jan 4, 2016 16:34:42 GMT -6
Thank you!
Ballot day will be on February 15th 2016.
Thank you very much!
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Post by Colonel Mximo Carbonèl on Jan 5, 2016 0:52:31 GMT -6
How come the 15th febuary?
The term of the cosa is not over yet?
Martin are you messing around again? I still remember the Halloween crisis...
Mximo
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Post by Colonel Mximo Carbonèl on Jan 5, 2016 1:04:37 GMT -6
Section 6. Vote of Confidence. The Clark must contain, in every edition, a Vote of Confidence. This reads as follows: "Do you wish the current Government to continue in its term of office?" Each MC must answer this question in his Clark ballot every month, either with a "yes" or a "no." If at the end of any month the "no" vote outnumbers the "yes" vote, the King shall dissolve the Cosâ and call new elections.
THIS IS CLEAR!!! Where can you read that the King or the Sos Have the right to call a month of recess?
Mximo
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 5, 2016 1:29:48 GMT -6
King didn't dissolve the Cosâ until January, Max. His fault.
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Jan 5, 2016 2:03:04 GMT -6
I think it is for the... better: I was annoyed by the Balloting Day falling on the summer/winter holiday times.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Jan 5, 2016 4:24:00 GMT -6
How come the 15th febuary? The term of the cosa is not over yet? Martin are you messing around again? I still remember the Halloween crisis... Mximo The reason is that the King didn't dissolve the Cosa in time, and the Senechal asked for the election to occur on February 15th, thus adding a month of recess... he can do that even if the VOC failed. The Halloween crisis??? What did I do during the Halloween crisis?
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
Posts: 9,636
Talossan Since: 8-13-2005
Knight Since: 7-28-2007
Motto: Nonnisi Deo serviendum
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Jan 5, 2016 5:20:12 GMT -6
The reason is that the King didn't dissolve the Cosa in time, and the Senechal asked for the election to occur on February 15th, thus adding a month of recess... he can do that even if the VOC failed. Can he? A few years ago there was a proposed amendment to Article XIII to eliminate the VOC on the sixth Clark, since it seemed pointless. But in the discussion on that bill, it was pointed out that a sixth-Clark VOC does serve a purpose in terms where a month of recess has not been called, by preventing a lame-duck Seneschal from calling a month of recess after losing a VOC in order to extend his own term. Where did Carlüs ask for the election to occur on February 15th, anyways? Was it on Witt? I checked his post history and didn't see such a request.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Jan 5, 2016 5:25:51 GMT -6
The reason is that the King didn't dissolve the Cosa in time, and the Senechal asked for the election to occur on February 15th, thus adding a month of recess... he can do that even if the VOC failed. Can he? A few years ago there was a proposed amendment to Article XIII to eliminate the VOC on the sixth Clark, since it seemed pointless. But in the discussion on that bill, it was pointed out that a sixth-Clark VOC does serve a purpose in terms where a month of recess has not been called, by preventing a lame-duck Seneschal from calling a month of recess after losing a VOC in order to extend his own term. Where did Carlüs ask for the election to occur on February 15th, anyways? Was it on Witt? I checked his post history and didn't see such a request. I thought I had seen it on Witt, but instead, I got it via the Attorney General who informed me that it was the case via a long private discussion. I know, it sounds shady, but it's not. I had just lost my Attorney (AD) for the Chancery and was talking to the Attorney General. The saddest part is that a failed VOC doesn't even prevent a lame-duck seneschal from calling a month of recess, but usually, the King would dissolve the Cosa before that happened, making the VOC count.
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Post by Colonel Mximo Carbonèl on Jan 5, 2016 5:32:26 GMT -6
This is a clear violation of Article XIII section VI of the law of this land.
SHALL in french means DOIT ... This is an order not a wish or a decision to make...
The KING is not to blame... is Secretary of State , and is chancellery office should I have done the paper work for him...
Now we have two UNELECTED official of the land making decision for the people
I ask for an injunction RIGHT NOW... Any lawyer... I'm ready to pay real good money to fight this.
Are we a democracy?
Mximo
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
Posts: 9,636
Talossan Since: 8-13-2005
Knight Since: 7-28-2007
Motto: Nonnisi Deo serviendum
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Jan 5, 2016 6:00:05 GMT -6
I thought I had seen it on Witt, but instead, I got it via the Attorney General who informed me that it was the case via a long private discussion. I know, it sounds shady, but it's not. I had just lost my Attorney (AD) for the Chancery and was talking to the Attorney General. Interesting. C. Carlüs Xheraltescù, can you confirm? Did you intend to request a month of recess for January? Do you think it is acceptable for a government to unilaterally keep itself in power by declaring a month of recess after the governing coalition has broken up and the Cosa has overwhelmingly voted no-confidence in the government?
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Jan 5, 2016 6:26:01 GMT -6
I don't remember issuing anything like that. What I was concerned about, and I said this to my colleagues, is that we ought to follow procedure tightly, which in my view meant waiting until we had a Writ of Dissolution. That was the view of the Cabinet, and indeed my view.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Jan 5, 2016 6:29:00 GMT -6
I don't remember issuing anything like that. What I was concerned about, and I said this to my colleagues, is that we ought to follow procedure tightly, which in my view meant waiting until we had a Writ of Dissolution. That was the view of the Cabinet, and indeed my view. Are you saying that Miestra confirmed it without your permission? Did I misread what she said?
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Jan 5, 2016 6:32:55 GMT -6
This is a clear violation of Article XIII section VI of the law of this land. SHALL in french means DOIT ... This is an order not a wish or a decision to make... The KING is not to blame... is Secretary of State , and is chancellery office should I have done the paper work for him... Now we have two UNELECTED official of the land making decision for the people I ask for an injunction RIGHT NOW... Any lawyer... I'm ready to pay real good money to fight this. Are we a democracy? Mximo What the frak are you talking about Mximo? The organic law says I organize the election the month after the Writ of Dissolution. It's not my choice: And the Cosa was dissolved on January 4th, therefore, the election occurs on February 15th, it's that simple!
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