Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
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Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 20, 2012 1:50:38 GMT -6
I didn’t. I’m not often around pregnant people of either sex ... Who knew there were pregnant people of more than one sex? MAG There is the case of Thomas Beatie. Granted, one can argue about the details, but Guinness World Records recognized Beatie as the world's "First Married Man to Give Birth", so for purposes of a bar bet . . . .
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
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Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Éovart
Feb 19, 2012 21:48:05 GMT -6
Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 19, 2012 21:48:05 GMT -6
This is why we need (and by "we" I mean "Sir Iustì and others, like, obviously, Istefan") to get annotations added into our Treisour indicating etymology for each member word of our marvelous vocabulary. Oh, I'm pretty hopeless at non-English languages, and know almost nothing of Talossan; the major work on that sort of thing is much better done by someone other than me. I just happened to know the Welsh form of my own middle name. I don't know it wasn't just a typo that happened to accidentally resemble Welsh, it just seems a reasonable theory. EDIT: And I screwed that up anyway. The Welsh actually has another r in it — "Iorwerth". (See? Hopeless.)
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
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Éovart
Feb 19, 2012 21:31:34 GMT -6
Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 19, 2012 21:31:34 GMT -6
I do note that the Welsh form of Edward is "Iowerth". Apparently some of the Celt influence on our Romance-speaking Berbers. The Welsh diminuitive is "Iolo".
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Istefan Perþonest
Cunstaval to Fiôvâ; Regent of the University of Talossa
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 19, 2012 20:36:38 GMT -6
I might argue that it meant census tracts at the time of the writing of the OrgLaw. Yeah, were I on the Uppermost Cort, that's certainly how I'd rule, just for sanity's sake. Just in case, an amendment, perhaps? That's what I'm thinking. But while we're at it we might want to make other adjustments to the borders rather than simply ratify the 1990 census tracts. After all, the reason the tracts were "cantonized" in the first place was to aid statistical analysis of Talossa, but as the US Census changes the boundaries, that becomes less and less useful. For example (just out of the air), imagine if we carved Pórt Maxhestic and Dún Cestoûr on the 2010 tract lines and put 9800 entirely within Maritiimi-Maxhestic. Then we could make Pórt Maxhestic Iincluding the current Republican capital) the 8th province (maybe plus a canton from Maricopa), while leaving Maritiimi-Maxhestic with enough of the old Maxhestic to justify its name, plus giving it a chunk of the original Maritiimi Province by way of compensation for the loss in the south (the original Maritiimi Province, in fact, consisted of what was later renamed Dún Cestour).
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Istefan Perþonest
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 19, 2012 19:16:36 GMT -6
I note that the OrgLaw specifies that cantons are census tracts, without qualification. It could be argued that as census tracts change, the OrgLaw requires an adjustment of borders to match the new tracts.
The result of that would be:
1) Schneideriâ (Maricopa) {112} picking up a chunk of Florencia (Florencia) {108}, eliminating Florencia's contact with the river and the United States.
2) Flúviâ-Montevûdio (Atatürk) {73} grabbing a small bit of Garibaldi [Riverside] (Benito [Mussolini]) {78} along the river.
3) Maritiimi [Jahnhaven] (M-M) {109} being divided into three new cantons, {1869}, {1870}, and {9800}
4) The coastlines of Dún Cestour (Vudoe) {76} and Pórt Maxhestic {153} being moved into the {9800} mentioned in #3.
5) Pórt Maxhestic (M-M) {153} losing the rest of its territory to a river-straddling canton of {1874}, creating a case where a defined-by-Orglaw canton explicitly includes territory on both sides of what the OrgLaw explicitly says is Talossa's border.
So, whenever we finally decide where to put an eighth province, we should probably formally specify both canton and province boundaries in an unambiguous manner at the same time.
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Istefan Perþonest
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 18, 2012 23:14:33 GMT -6
All right, weird idea caused by playing with maps—what if we split the canton of Pórt Maxhestic in accordance with the new 2010 Census tract boundaries?
Specifically, in the 2010 Census map, what was 153 (in the 1980, 1990, and 2000 censuses) isn't, anymore. Most of the old 153 was consolidated with a bit across the river into the new tract 1874, while the eastern coast (which appears to have little in the way of housing, by the Google Maps) was split off and put in the new tract 9800.
So, split the old 153 along this new line. On the west side of the line, you have the new Province of Pórt Maxhestic, including the Mitchell Building and what appears to be (from the Google Maps photos) the majority of 153's docks (thus justifying the "Pórt"). On the east side, you have the Canton of Maxhestic (or East Maxhestic, or whatever), part of the Province of Maritiimi-Maxhestic, which, oddly enough, happens to include both parts of Pórt Maxhestic photographed on the Maritiimi-Maxhestic Province webpage.
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Istefan Perþonest
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Yes?
Feb 18, 2012 18:11:51 GMT -6
Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 18, 2012 18:11:51 GMT -6
Yep, both under the statute law of Talossa and the SoS's declaration of your citizenship, this is your province.
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Istefan Perþonest
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¡Azul!
Feb 18, 2012 18:05:50 GMT -6
Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 18, 2012 18:05:50 GMT -6
DUDE! HOW DID YOU GET THE TEXT ALL THOSE COLORS? Instead of using the Quick Reply box, press the reply or quote button. You'll notice a line of icons, and to the right of them, a drop-down box labeled "Colors". Select the text you want colored and then choose what color you want there.
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Istefan Perþonest
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 18, 2012 17:18:41 GMT -6
I know there are good people in M-M, but what happens under the Kingdom laws if a province is growing too big? Would there be the risk of redistributions, or some kind of a closing of the province for further immigration, or what? 34 RZ 9, titled THE PEOPLE TO PROVINCES (No More Microprovinces) ACT, section 13, establishes, as S:r Lorentzescu said, that a province with population in excess of twice the population of the smallest-population province is closed to immigration. Vudoe currently has 12 citizens, while M-M has 17, so the addition of the Republic to M-M would almost certainly cause that province to join Florencia in closed status, if 34 RZ 9 remains unamended. (By the provisions of the same, people who would be assigned to M-M would fall through to Maricopa, while those who would be assigned to Florencia are currently to be assigned to Atatürk.)
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Istefan Perþonest
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 18, 2012 13:35:09 GMT -6
But I and my compatriot Maritiimi-Maxhestians were somewhat less happy about the proposal to create a new province for the incoming Republicans, because the plan mentioned involved breaking up my home province of Maritiimi-Maxhestic into two separate provinces. I see that is one of the options listed here, as well. I note that I was making an effort at a complete survey of all available options; all provinces with two cantons got listed as possible candidates for a split. Still, it seems to me that a superior option exists, as I will explain. Succinctly: divide Maricopa, sectioning cantons 144 and 143 into a new province. I note that's listed in my original post as 2.D., right after M-M splitting. In fact, I specifically named those cantons—Buffonia and Frédéricville are 144 and 143—as good candidates for the split. This is actually the plan I favored second-most when I posted, and now favor the most, now that D. N. Vercáriâ has made the insightful point about the practicalities of making a Haxh to Pengöpäts. As to the name of that new province, I would actually be opposed to the name Buffonia, since that's already the name of one of the cantons, and would create a degree of confusion. Beyond that, I'd think it should be left up to the decision of the citizens of the new province.
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Istefan Perþonest
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 17, 2012 23:02:58 GMT -6
I don't mean the physical space so much as that's where I all began. Yeah, but it's always been Milwaukee east of the river, to the point that non-Milwaukee but east-of-the-river "Northern Territories" were historically more coveted than any part of Milwaukee west of it. (The party that went after Gandhi Province, part of Milwaukee west of the river, got a mere 10% of the vote; one of the referrenda to annex Shorewood and Whitefish Bay actually won a majority.)
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Istefan Perþonest
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 17, 2012 21:30:41 GMT -6
Why not just the rest of the City of Milwaukee All of it? That would result in a single province rather larger than all the rest of the provinces combined.
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Istefan Perþonest
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 17, 2012 21:14:24 GMT -6
Per the Reunision post, an eighth province is being suggested as an enclave where the Republicans can maintain themselves somewhat separate on a provincial level. Since there are various ways this could be done, I thought it wouldn't be too premature to consider the obvious possibilities. 1. Promote Pengöpäts to a province. The territorial logic is fairly clear. Pengöpäts is the only non-provincial territory within the current territorial claim of Talossa, and thus the only place to put a new province that involves neither annexation of new territory nor breaking up an existing province. Further, since the territory has the same number of cantons as the Republic has provinces, it would be relatively easy for existing Republican institutions to be cross-mapped to the place. They could even rename the cantons something like New Florencia, New Cézembre and the Great Southern Canton. And then there's the symbolism. The efforts of Talossan citizens legally resident in Pengöpäts to form a distinct subcommunity there was the first act of the "King Ben versus the traitors" drama that Reunision is to close. The Kingdom explicitly handing it to those Ben called "Penguineans", to serve as the homeland of their "rebel culture", would seem to me to be a fitting repudiation of the whole drama by the Kingdom. 2. Subdivide a Province Theoretically, any province other than Florencia can be subdivided. So: 2.A. Divide Benito, Atatürk, or Vudoe. We could, of course. The result is more one-canton provinces on territory that was never claimed by the Republic. 2.B. Divide Cézembre This would also result in more one-canton provinces, but it would be on Republic-claimed territory. Note that Cézembre's cantons are not even remotely equal in size, and do not have names that naturally suggest names for a new province. 2.C. Divide Maritiimi-Maxhestic Again creating one-canton provinces, but there was a historical period where the two were separate, and on Republic-claimed territory. Presumably the new provinces would be Maritiimi and Pórt Maxhestic. 2.D. Divide Maricopa This is the one province of Talossa that could be divided without creating any one-canton provinces. Maricopa is a real outlier in canton count, with six, while all other provinces have one (Florencia) or two (all the others). This may be because Maricopa was the last province created before the adoption of the Organic Law, the last lump of the New/South/Southwestern Territories made into a province all at once. Carving off two cantons (probably Buffonia and Prachelion or Buffonia and Frédéricville) for the Republicans would give the new province a "normal" number (and allow a survival of the Republic-Florencia and Republic-Cézembre structures in the cantons of the province), while making Maricopa less of an outlier. Mariocpa is also within the territory claimed by the Republic. 3. Annex territory outside the current Kingdom 3.A. Annex former territory of the Kingdom There are a number of bits of the map Talossa once claimed, like Iceland, Ellis Island, and the German village of Schiltach, that theoretically could be re-annexed. The most logical choices would seem, however, to be the old Pacific Island claims— Howland Island, Baker Island, Enderbury Island, Kingman Reef, Palmyra Atoll, Jarvis Island, and Vostok Island. 3.B. Annex territories historically sought by the Kingdom The three GTA places that were "seriously" pursued were the "Gandhi Province" (inner-city Milwaukee, annexation of which was part of the Liberal party platform in the January 1988 election) and the towns of Shorewood and Whitefish Bay (the so-called Northern Territories, repeated referenda on annexation 1987-1989). 3.C. Annex new lands from anywhere. Which, you know, could be anywhere. Anyway, I think that covers all the possibilities. I personally think the Province of Pengöpäts is the obvious and fitting solution, but I expect others will have their own opinions.
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Istefan Perþonest
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 16, 2012 22:50:14 GMT -6
Congratulations!
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Istefan Perþonest
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Talossan Since: 2-21-1998
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Post by Istefan Perþonest on Feb 13, 2012 22:09:26 GMT -6
Ordered it from here, the Two Stripe in Irish Green and Canada Red, 2'×3', paid $11 (shipped). Arrived today. The stitching is all done in white thread, which was a little disappointing, but it seems to be well constructed and durable, with solid reinforcing stiching and decent grommets.
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