Post by Eðo Grischun on Aug 16, 2014 16:10:11 GMT -6
Miestra Shiva said:
we've just seen that fear of reprisal is real among votersSlight exaggeration. We've seen ONE VOTER talk about this. And mostly everyone agrees that the issue is not a real issue.
Miestra Shiva said:
Vuode Senäts candidate is trying to vote down the repeal of Three StrikesMy reason for voting against the amendment has very little to do with the intention of the bill. I voted against it due to the bill taking out the Royal pardon. I suspect I may have voted for the bill had it said something like "voluntary renunciation for failing to vote or take part in a census every 2 years unless the king sees fit to grant pardon. I'm totally paraphrasing there but I'm sure you get what I mean. Put the royal pardon back in and I don't have a major, major issue. We are Monarchists ya know.
You'll need to ask Owen why he voted CON, but I suspect his rationale to be fairly similar to my own.
Miestra Shiva said:
we demand the right to see who you voted for, and to kick you out of the country if you don't vote.Nonsense. Hyperbole. Rhetoric.
Cresti Siervicul said:
The Progs support repealing the option to cast a secret ballot?No. If someone wants to vote privately then so be it. But, if someone wants to vote openly we support that as well. Anyway, Miestra is mixing all the issues together into a big soup here.
Three strikes and open/closed ballots are two different issues.
The Progs don't have a problem with three strikes. Never have. Unless our policy has changed since the last few elections? I doubt it though. We accept the option to vote "present" as a sensible thing. It allows us to see who is active over a period of time while giving folks the option of not voting in a political sense. It's not really compulsory voting. I would understand the argument against 3 strikes if we were saying "YOU MUST VOTE AND YOU MUST VOTE FOR A PARTY". But, we don't. We only ask you to confirm your presence. This is not a new policy for the Progs.
Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Sir C. M. Siervicül