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Post by Cresti da Ion Nouacastra on Apr 25, 2014 20:19:27 GMT -6
We would have more citizens. And more citizens means we could have a better rep.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Apr 25, 2014 20:46:38 GMT -6
We would have more citizens. And more citizens means we could have a better rep. I'm not sure that I agree that more citizens = better reputation. Just be cause we have a large number of members, doesn't mean we are a great Kingdom. Having more active citizens means more , in my opinion. Do you feel that Talossa has a bad reputation because of the number of citizens it has?
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Apr 25, 2014 21:11:13 GMT -6
I'm not sure about the idea of more citizens=more population, however I do think that having a minimum age of 13 might be beneficial, so long as they are active until they are 14, and eligible to vote, hold office etc. This could be a good opportunity for anyone under the voting age to add to culturally building Talossa as we are mainly seen as a place of politics, they might be able to help to build the countries image in another way than we have. Also we would get a better feel for the individual before hand, so we would have a better grasp of their determination to stay a Talossan, but also of their idealisms, in a greater depth than just the 15 day prospective period. Also it would give further credence to the idea of having a survey each year for maintaining citizenship, rather than the three strikes law. As citizens who are 13 couldn't vote, they could miss two our of three just by no being eligible to vote, and the third one they might be unable to vote in, which would put them at a disadvantage if they were to have a minimum age of 13.
However this is only my opinion.
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Apr 25, 2014 21:36:17 GMT -6
I'm not sure about the idea of more citizens=more population, however I do think that having a minimum age of 13 might be beneficial, so long as they are active until they are 14, and eligible to vote, hold office etc. This could be a good opportunity for anyone under the voting age to add to culturally building Talossa as we are mainly seen as a place of politics, they might be able to help to build the countries image in another way than we have. Also we would get a better feel for the individual before hand, so we would have a better grasp of their determination to stay a Talossan, but also of their idealisms, in a greater depth than just the 15 day prospective period. Also it would give further credence to the idea of having a survey each year for maintaining citizenship, rather than the three strikes law. As citizens who are 13 couldn't vote, they could miss two our of three just by no being eligible to vote, and the third one they might be unable to vote in, which would put them at a disadvantage if they were to have a minimum age of 13. However this is only my opinion. Actually, 3 General Elections cover 21 months. So, they would be able to vote at the latest in the 3rd GE since their Citizenship.
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Post by Éovart Andrinescù on Apr 25, 2014 23:55:32 GMT -6
Well im sure they wouldnt mind that. It would less than a year when they could vote anyways, and plus, it would increase the kingdom's population, and reputation. I think it might be a little dangerous make assumptions about today's youth. Though they are significantly more connected and therefore more capable of spreading the word about Talossa, it is very easy for the image of "Talossa" to be skewed in someone's mind. For most people that I tell about Talossa, it takes some time to explain the concept of a "micronation". This concept could very easily be corrupted or completely misinterpreted by youths through the game of Chinese Whispers that is social networking. Heck, I even have trouble explaining Talossa to my own 16-year-old classmates or, worse still, grown adults. Crowds of twelvies* who want to be president of their own "internet club" flooding the Ministry of Immigration is the exact opposite of what Talossa needs. I also think that we're weighing too much importance on population. Talossa both needs and attracts people with a very clear-cut set of characteristics. Talossans are friendly, cooperative, respectful and not afraid to express their opinion, while still honoring the opinions of others. It is a result of both the age limit and a selective immigration process that makes this environment possible, one where every single citizen can positively contribute to the nation and have his or her voice heard. We are the envy of all other nations in this regard. But if we abandon this for the sake of a higher population, at some point we will have to sacrifice our capacity to let everyone's voice be heard. Think of Talossa as a parlor, not a concert hall. As it has been said a bazillion times before: Quality over quantity. So to that end, I don't think we should change or revoke the age limit. * A "twelvie" is a naïve youth between the ages of 11-14 with delusions of maturity caused by the onset of adolescence. By the way, my use of this term is completely humorous and not intended to deride the important role played by younger Talossans, including myself.
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