Brad Holmes
Cunstaval to Maritiimi-Maxhestic
Atatürkey, and flying by the seat of my RUMP
Posts: 1,014
Talossan Since: 3-16-2006
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Post by Brad Holmes on Jan 21, 2014 22:30:04 GMT -6
And since we nominated before the Cosa was seated last time and the world continued to turn, let's do it again! Might I ask what you define as "once the Ziu is seated"? (from earlier post) Pesky OrgLaw.
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Brad Holmes
Cunstaval to Maritiimi-Maxhestic
Atatürkey, and flying by the seat of my RUMP
Posts: 1,014
Talossan Since: 3-16-2006
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Post by Brad Holmes on Jan 21, 2014 22:33:32 GMT -6
Yup. MPRT and ZRT tied for that last one. We need to figure something out, unless one of the parties would like to voluntarily yield. That should be pretty easy since they both give their seats to the same two people. I note (sticking my nose into the affairs of this province), when we had a tie in seat distribution in Benito last time, we announced that the seat would be assigned randomly based on the results of a specified-in-advance Wisconsin Lottery drawing. That actually sounds like a great idea! It is still between the MPRT and ZRT to sort this out, perhaps this is the method they will choose? But I think I will submit a proposed amendment to our constitution codifying the lottery tie-breaker.
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Jan 27, 2014 11:27:58 GMT -6
I would ask the party leaders of the ZRT and MRPT to come to an agreement soon so that we are able to fill our seats and start the Başbakan elections soon. Thanks.
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Jan 28, 2014 11:17:00 GMT -6
Might I ask that the above request is done by the first of February please?
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Jan 29, 2014 18:21:03 GMT -6
If I may briefly enter the Chamber, I would like to inform you that myself and S:reu day Dhi are happy to come to an agreement on which individual should receive the seat, if that's an acceptable arrangement to this august body?
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Jan 29, 2014 22:11:17 GMT -6
I find this acceptable, any objections by the other members?
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Feb 1, 2014 15:27:17 GMT -6
Might I ask that if a decision has been made then it is announced please? as we need to start to vote on a Başbakan soon. Thank you.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Feb 1, 2014 15:49:34 GMT -6
Well, I'm waiting on confirmation that this is an acceptable means of deciding the seat allocation. If indeed it is, I'd like to call on Glüc da Dhi to confirm that we've agreed on someone to assign the seat to.
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
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Talossan Since: 5-14-2009
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Feb 1, 2014 16:31:07 GMT -6
Oh, right. Yes, go ahead.
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Feb 1, 2014 16:46:19 GMT -6
I personally think it is, however, I do also think that in assigning the seat, you would have to say which party the seat is going to as well, because I don't actually think, that constitutionally, and with the structure of the commons, that you can assign a seat unless it is attached to a political party. So you would have to decide which party the seat is going to.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Feb 1, 2014 16:48:52 GMT -6
That means more trouble as it determines the sovereignty of one party over another - it's easier to agree on someone to grant a seat to, IMO.
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Feb 1, 2014 17:00:46 GMT -6
I understand that however each seat in the commons is supposed to be tied to a party (from my understanding of the constitution) so that has to be decided, it doesn't matter how its decided, but it does have to be decided (as I understand the constitution anyway). And unfortunately there isn't a way in the constitution or it to be decided either. Its a bit of a pickle, but down to my understanding, of the constitution that a seat has to be assigned to a party before an individual is assigned to it, As stated in Article II, Section I of the constitution:- "Section 1: Provincial lawmaking powers will be vested in the Atatürk House of Commons. The number of seats in the House of Common shall equal 10% of the number of seats in the Cosa. The allocation of the seats amongst political parties will correspond to the percentage of provincial votes each registered party received in the most recent General Election, rounded to the nearest whole number, to be assigned by party leaders, in accordance with Article VI of the Organic Law."
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Feb 3, 2014 8:32:13 GMT -6
As the matter of the contested seat has not yet been decided, and that under my understanding of the constitution that each seat needs to be assigned to a party (please tell me if im wrong in my interpretation here), and as two of the commons members are representatives of both parties to which the seat is contested, I hereby move that as it is unfair to ask the parties to decide, that the two remaining commons members (who are not representing these parties as a matter of fairness) comes up with a way to distribute this seat, in no more that 2 weeks (from the moment (if) this motion passes)
I formally present this motion to the house.
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Post by Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on Feb 6, 2014 10:13:43 GMT -6
Is there any support for this motion?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2014 11:26:33 GMT -6
Are we technically without government at the moment, since this decision would actually finalize the Commons membership in question?
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