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Post by Audrada Rôibeardét on May 6, 2012 9:44:16 GMT -6
I just finished watching a movie called 'American Outlaws'. It's suppose to be about the James-Younger gang (i.e. Jesse James) but I'm not sure it's historically accurate. Doesn't matter, it was still a fun movie. Everytime I watch a western, I get this urge to go shoot my Army Colts.
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on May 6, 2012 11:20:57 GMT -6
Schleswig-Holstein state election results.
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on May 6, 2012 11:28:18 GMT -6
So many elections today in europe. I was in Monschau for a few days ago and I noticed a lot of posters for the piratenpartei. So I guess NRW has elections soon to. So, how are the elections going? We only get news here from France and Greece.
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on May 6, 2012 12:12:37 GMT -6
NRW state elections are due next Sunday, I suppose. As for S-H, three coalitions would be possible: SocDems, Greens, SSW (Danish/Frisian minorities party); SocDems, Greens, Liberals; Christian Democrats, Liberals, Greens. Die Linke (Left) have been kicked out of he Parliament, in are the Pirates with 8 %. Total turnout of 60 %. I'm feeling a certain affinity to the Pirates, kind of a real-world Peculiarist Party. Well, whereever they are trying to break up crusty old structures of the "traditional" parties. We'll see if they are going to be more than but a catalizer for an "update" of the German democracy. In other news, I like what I'm hearing about election results in France.
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on May 6, 2012 12:52:12 GMT -6
My intuition tells me I would support die Grünen, but I dont know exactly how leftish they are. I consider myself a (progressive/centrist) liberal but I think the FDP would be too conservative for me, and I noticed posters that I believe suggested they consider green energy part of an expensive ideology, (Is that correct or did I intrepret it wrongly?) so I guess I dont like them either, but I dont know much about German politics. Im not happy about France. I really dont like Sarkozy, but Im afraid Hollande wont do enough to deal with France's debt. He actually wants to lower pensionable age, which I think is naive and not very responsible. Greece is a real disaster. They actually put Fascists in the parliament. Back to the topic: Im watching the new avatar series online. I know its made for children, but I spent so many hours of my childhood watching the original series, first in Dutch on tv, later in english online, that I just could resist it, when the new episodes aired.
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on May 6, 2012 13:16:20 GMT -6
Funny thing about the Greens is that they started from the extreme left here in Frankfurt, and now they are in a coalition with the conservative CDU over here. I stopped voting for them a long time ago. back in the 80s: in fact I never really supported them.
The FDP Liberals have become very one-dimensional, mainly focussed on economical issues and economical laisser-faire during the recent decades. As for green energy, I think they are wanting to leave it all to "the market", so if anything "green" is supposedly too expensive for whatever or whomever, they are not for it.
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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on May 6, 2012 14:50:39 GMT -6
Greece is a real disaster. They actually put Fascists in the parliament. "They" in this context is the EU and the IMF. Kick a country in the groin and they will elect Fascists. That's a fact, no need for guessing.
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on May 6, 2012 14:58:31 GMT -6
I do admit to having my doubts about the EU's strategy concerning Greece, but without the EU's help Greece would be in a much bigger mess. Politicians have failed enormously in Greece by promising the voters way too much and spending their money. Now they have to be realistic. Parties that promise that all problems will go away by using violence against immigrants and walking around with swastikas on their chest or by saying Greece can simply refuse to pay for its debt without losing the confidence of the people they get their money from will only make the situation worse.
I understand the anger of the Greek people. Corrupt populist and Socialist politicians have told them for years the state can make everyone happy by spending money on itself and now the people are finding out that was a lie. The EU has a problem with democracy. A bunch of bureaucrats most people never directly voted for. So they are an easy target for criticism. But in the end the Greek problems were caused by politicians who promised to much and were afraid to take responsibility for painful measures. Replacing them with other irresponsible politicians, who also have some ideas that scare me in my sleep wont change anything.
You cant force people to do the right thing against their will. If they vote against the EU we cant force them to stay. Then it wont be our problem anymore. But I weep for their future.
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Post by Audrada Rôibeardét on May 6, 2012 16:28:23 GMT -6
Whoa! This thread went way off topic!
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on May 7, 2012 2:35:25 GMT -6
I do admit to having my doubts about the EU's strategy concerning Greece, but without the EU's help Greece would be in a much bigger mess. Politicians have failed enormously in Greece by promising the voters way too much and spending their money. Now they have to be realistic. Parties that promise that all problems will go away by using violence against immigrants and walking around with swastikas on their chest or by saying Greece can simply refuse to pay for its debt without losing the confidence of the people they get their money from will only make the situation worse. To some extent, the EU is responsible for the introduction of a common currency which comes without a common government. Also, for political reasons, the Greek economy has been stirred into one pot with economies that are operating on a different level. All of this gave the incapable Greek governments a lot of wiggle space for wreaking havoc. Now, like every so often, the "average people" are supposed to wipe up the mess, while the rich can transfer their savings to Switzerland. Yes, blaming it on the immigrants is far off any kind of a clever solution. The Greek government didn't even enforce existing laws concerning tax collection, as it seems. Kind of, that's the European way of the post-cold-war era through a looking glass. Whosoever is forced to pay for the welfare state, it's never the rich, at least not on a level that reflects the proportions of the societal distribution of wealth. Whereas, by saying "the rich" I'm not meaning a caricature of rich indiviuals swimming in a pool full of bills and coins - I'm meaning companies which are, overproportionally, profiting from the current economical order. Painful measures like actually applying existing Greek tax laws, ironically. Now the bitter thing about democracy is that you can't vote reality away, at least not in the long run. Voting against the EU will not change the situtation as well. Neither for Greece nor for the EU, looking at how many EU investors will go under if the Greek bubble is eventually bursting. This will have a major impact on the stock exchange rates to which we're all praying. Er... uhm... uh... currently I'm looking at the computer screen, I'm not watching anything else... allegedly, I'm at work.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on May 10, 2012 13:59:53 GMT -6
I ordered Firefly through the post, so I hope to watch that in the next few days.
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Post by Audrada Rôibeardét on May 10, 2012 14:39:07 GMT -6
+1 to Vialesch!
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on May 10, 2012 14:44:56 GMT -6
Woop!
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on May 11, 2012 14:09:34 GMT -6
"Erin Brockovitch"
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on May 12, 2012 11:08:44 GMT -6
Episode 2 of Firefly (the one about the train) - Dav, you're so obviously Jayne. ;D
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