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Post by Eðo Grischun on Jan 10, 2012 21:20:41 GMT -6
Ridiculous indeed! Why is it so prohibited? Why can't an honest (enough) guy, who causes no harm to any man nor beast, walk home (1/2 a mile) from his friends without getting stopped, searched, warrant checked and having his bud taken away then told to bugger off and wait for a court summons.
In this world, I have learned that money and power makes things happen. I want to know who at the top of the world wants weed illegal so much? Amsterdam coffee shops have just been told to stop serving tourists! What's so wrong with it? I believe it makes me more creative, my girlfriend thinks it makes me more lazy, my friends think it makes me more funny, nobody except the police think it makes me more dangerous.
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Post by Ián B. Anglatzarâ on Jan 11, 2012 6:15:27 GMT -6
Huh. It's a drug and it's bad for you, but one thing it sure doesn't do is make you dangerous. Overuse makes you lazy and slowly impairs your cognitive ability and energy levels, but overuse of tobacco gives you cancer and heart problems and overuse of alcohol destroys the liver and brain cells. All drugs have their drawbacks - and advantages. Cannabis is singled out because it's relatively new to our society.
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Post by King John on Jan 11, 2012 13:30:05 GMT -6
It makes you dangerous to potato chips.
Maybe to people, too, if you're driving.
— John R
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Post by Munditenens Tresplet on Jan 11, 2012 13:35:22 GMT -6
It makes you dangerous to potato chips. And White Castle.
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Jan 11, 2012 15:01:26 GMT -6
It makes you dangerous to potato chips. Maybe to people, too, if you're driving. — John R That applies to beer, too, doesn't it? (This is neither a pro-cannabis statement, nor the opposite thereof... and of course not an anti-beer statement. Whereas, being a non-smoker excludes me from partaking in the use of mind-altering substances that have to be inhaled as a smoke.)
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Post by Iason Bitxichë Taiwos on Jan 11, 2012 20:13:20 GMT -6
One law that I've always found ridiculous is the one against possessing drug "paraphenalia". Paraphenalia? Maybe its just the lower classes I associate with, but I know folks who can make drug paraphenalia out of virtually anything they have on hand. (One local guy is known as "McGuyver" for his ability to make a bong out of anything. A pop can, paper bag, a muffler...) we still have a few "head shops" in the area, selling bongs...ahem, water pipes, blunt wraps, urine purifiers, etc. I may be mislead, but I was always under the impression that you can get in trouble for simply possessing a bong, even if it was a device you legally bought at a legal store (I swear, officer, its for tobacco use only. Just like my set of brass knuckles is really a paperweight.) (How do you buy a gun at a gun store and then transport it home without illegally carrying a concealed weapon?)
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Jan 11, 2012 21:01:05 GMT -6
I son't know about the US but in the UK it is legal to possess smoking paraphernalia. water pipes, etc are not cannabis products. One UK law I do not understand in this regards is that it is completely legal to buy, sell and own cannabis seeds! You can only be charged for germinating the seeds and/or growing the plant. The thing is though there is more than one use for the cannabis plant, it's not just for smoking. There are many, many uses for hemp.
What more can you expect from governments that tax you more if you grow your own tobacco plants than what you would pay in equivalent to buying a carton of cigs?
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Jan 12, 2012 20:16:58 GMT -6
In The Australian Capital territory Canberra our Equivalent of Washington DC except (amongst other thing I'm sure) they have self government Marijuana is decriminalized which in practice means that you can grow up to 5 plants and carry a certain amount for private use i cant remember the amount. Technically it is possible that you could be given the equivalent of a parking fine but apparently that has only happened on a couple of occasions when the police didn't have evidence for other charges. I have it on good authority and personal experience one of the reasons was they were sick of trying to cover up usage by politicians Ambassadors and other bureaucrats etc.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Jan 12, 2012 20:22:18 GMT -6
Maybe any Talossan laws relating to Marijuana could just include that you cant be charged and brought before a Talossan court for the use or possession of marijuana etc. That way we could make the statement we want to make and it would get around jurisdiction and other problems.
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Jan 12, 2012 21:02:13 GMT -6
We could make it legal in Pengopats. Nobody is gonna catch anyone up there!
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Post by Flip Molinar on Jan 12, 2012 23:43:08 GMT -6
We could make it legal in Pengopats. Nobody is gonna catch anyone up there! Eovart, your map is upside down and I agree fully with Istefan. ;D
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Jan 13, 2012 0:54:20 GMT -6
haha... down.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Jan 14, 2012 14:43:46 GMT -6
Eovart maybe you Could start an organization Aimed at the Promotion and education in the many, many uses for hemp.With a secondary aim of supporting business in manufacturing importing Hemp products.
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Jan 14, 2012 16:12:08 GMT -6
Eovart maybe you Could start an organization Aimed at the Promotion and education in the many, many uses for hemp.With a secondary aim of supporting business in manufacturing importing Hemp products. Well, those talking points are all very interesting. Especially if you go one step further and not just talk about the many, many uses but then highlight why those uses are disregarded. Hemp can be used to make, well, hemp fabric. But the Cotton industry might have something to say about that for instance. Medicinal uses but the pharma industry has something to say about that too. Hemp can be used to make a very strong twine which can be used to make very good ropes. Can anyone think of a more profitable industry doing this differently already with synthetics and man made fibres? You see, these are the REAL reasons for pot being illegal. It has never made any sense for it to be illegal while tobacco and alcohol are legal. The was has nothing to do with mind altering substances...they don't actually care about that all that much. Governments left alone would probably legalize it on the basis of liberty but there are too many industries that could be threatened by these other uses of the plant. You cant even grow the plant for those other uses, thats illegal too. The legal ban is more of a blanket ban. Its just easier to show the world that the problem is with the smokers, they are the easy target. The businessman with a warehouse manufacturing topical lotions from THC (active ingredient) is harder to deal with because everyone can see no crime is being committed there, except the crime of hurting the bigger industries in bed with these governments.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Jan 14, 2012 17:50:17 GMT -6
Ill have to do some more research Im not sure of the exact legalities but it is possible to legally purchase Hemp fabric and clothes(hemp jeans are popular) hemp twine and other hemp products in most major Australian cities.
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