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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Apr 9, 2011 17:53:25 GMT -6
Final Vote tally I note the Election legislation had passed.
Seat Allocation Election Legislation RUMP 4 Sir Mick Preston RUMP 3 S:reu Alexander Davis Per PPT 3 Istefan Lorentzescu Per
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Apr 9, 2011 18:34:55 GMT -6
Groovy! I'll add it to our list of laws when I get a chance.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Apr 9, 2011 19:05:07 GMT -6
I have updated the provincial webpage to reflect both the new statute and the new stand-alone law. At some point this week I will also update our provincial assembly section.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Apr 11, 2011 5:22:17 GMT -6
just a reminder some other points I feel we need to work on
I believe that we have yet to have our constitution ratified by King or Cunstaval.
Also We need to Consider what if anything we might want to do to have a Cunstaval appointed.
Also could we consider a page listing the make up of previous Assemblies at least the 5 assemblies since the use of current constitution.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Apr 12, 2011 0:27:40 GMT -6
I do not think we want a Cunstaval - those are for inactive and silly provinces, not ours. And personally I have said that I believe that the King's silence equals consent when it comes to our constitution - I think it's best to err in such cases on the people's mandate - but I would be willing to consider other options, such as a petition to our monarch to ratify our constitution.
As for the list of previous assemblies, that's a great idea! As GSU (Grand Specific Undersecretary) I think this is my responsibility, so I will get on it this week.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Apr 12, 2011 2:06:54 GMT -6
Regarding our Constitution How would such a petition be put. Would it be done through the Zui as done by other Provinces or would this be just a public petition etc put on witt ?
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Apr 12, 2011 2:09:38 GMT -6
I don't know, I suppose it could just be a personal appeal sent to the King. The Ziu doesn't need to enter into it; royal approval is all that's mentioned in the OrgLaw.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Apr 12, 2011 3:04:20 GMT -6
How about I put something together & put it too the Assembly for Comment.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Apr 12, 2011 3:53:27 GMT -6
(Provided for your Comment ideas etc) Petition for the Grant of a Constitution for the Sovereign Province of Maritiimi-MaxhesticWe the good people of Maritiimi-Maxhestic, humbly beg and Petition Your Majesty to grant Royal Approval of our Provincial Constitution. The following document was drafted by the Constitutional Convention of Maritiimi-Maxhestic, and approved by that body on April 24th, 2008. It proceeded to referendum to the people as a whole, and passed unanimously on May 12th, 2008. Maritiimi-Maxhestic has operated under this constitution since this date and it has recently come to our attention that Royal Approval has never been granted. As provided for in the organic Law. We beseech Your Majesty to grant unto us Royal Approval of this our Constitution. Your Humble Servant Istefan Lorentzescu Grand General Secretary(Premier) Maritiimi-Maxhestic (Text of Constitutionto be inserted) www.kingdomoftalossa.net/index.cgi?lingo=&page=MMConstitution
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Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN
Puisne Justice; Chancellor of the Royal Talossan Bar; Cunstaval to Florencia
Dame & Former Seneschal
Posts: 1,157
Talossan Since: 4-5-2010
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
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Post by Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN on Apr 12, 2011 12:23:54 GMT -6
A friendly fellow citizen from Cézembre, just so happens to wander by:
I hope you don't mind my intrusion, but just a small issue I have with the above petition, I believe when you mention "His Royal Highness", you are referring to the King, in which case the petition should read, "His/Your Majesty" and not "His/Your Royal Highness". Since, Royals that are not heads of state should be addressed as "Your Royal Highness" (e.g. Prince, Princess etc...) and Royals that are Heads of State should be addressed as "You Majesty" (e.g. King, Queen).
Sorry once again for my intrusion,
She wanders of again...
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Apr 12, 2011 14:50:12 GMT -6
oops I should know that, thanks Litz
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Apr 12, 2011 16:47:20 GMT -6
I see no other problems with the form of it, and thank S:ru Lorentzescu for formulating it. However, I personally still don't think that we should send this, as I am of the opinion that the validation of the people is the real affirmation and that, qui tacet consentit. I call for a vote on the matter.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Apr 13, 2011 0:27:56 GMT -6
As I am of the opinion the Constitution is invalid and unenforceable without Royal Approval: I vote in favor of seeking Royal Approval whether through this petition or by other means.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Apr 13, 2011 4:07:17 GMT -6
Organic Law Article XVII: Territorial Subdivisions
Section 9. Each Province shall govern itself in such a manner as to guarantee its citizens the full protection of their rights under this Organic Law. Provincial elections may, if so specified in a Province's constitution, be conducted by the Chancery at the same time as elections to the Cosâ, and in accordance with the national election laws and rules. The King shall appoint a Cunstavál (or Constable) for each Province. Until such time as the King or Cunstavál proclaims a provincial constitution providing otherwise, a Province's Cunstavál shall serve as Military Governor and may exercise all the powers of the provincial government. No Cunstavál shall proclaim any provincial constitution or constitutional amendment which:
Conflicts with any provision of this Organic Law,
Grants to the King (and consequently to the Cunstavál as the King's representative in the Province) royal powers less extensive than those granted to the King on the national level, except that the provincial royal powers need not include a right of dissolution if provincial elections are held concurrently with Cosâ elections,
Fails to provide a right to appeal decisions of the provincial court or courts (if any) to the Cort pü Înalt or such other national courts as may be created by the Ziu, or
In the case of the adoption of a new constitution, is not approved by a referendum in which at least either a majority of all citizens of the province or a two-thirds majority of votes actually cast is in favor of the constitution.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Apr 19, 2011 17:28:09 GMT -6
I assume as their has been only one vote, that the vote on the matter lapses ?
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