ATTENTION: REFERENDUM ON C1&C2 COMING 1 SEPTEMBER

[Glüc da Dhi]

As discussed here: www.talossa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=czembre&action=display&thread=5072&page=2
the referendum on two amendments to our constitution that passed l'Etats this term will be held alongside the 4th clark
(1 - 21 september)

When the referendum starts I will send all Cézembrians a mail about it. Voting will be possible in this thread or on our website: www.cezembre.moonfruit.com

C1:

The first Cézembrian election amendment.

WHEREAS Cézembre is the best province of Talossa and

WHEREAS we want to remain the best province of Talossa and

WHEREAS we need clear election procedures to achieve that goal and

WHEREAS our current constitution doesnt provide those clear election procedures and

WHEREAS usally we elect a new Seneschal just after the General Elections and

WHEREAS there is no law actually stating we should do so and

WHEREAS there should be, because if we dont the voting percentage would be even lower, now

THEREFORE Article 10 of the constitution of Cezembre shall be amended to read:

"Article 10. A Seneschal shall be elected, by the citizens of Cezembre, in an election conducted by the Seneschal or his appointed agent, in the event there is no incumbent Seneschal or the Seneschal is inactive for more then a week, the Governor-General or his appointed agent. All citizens of Cézembre have the right to vote and/or be a candidate in this election."

FURTHERMORE the following articles shall be inserted, in Chapter III, after Article 10, which will read as follows:

"Article 11. Elections as described by article 10 will take, no less and no longer than 3 weeks. Cézembrians must announce their candidacy in the first week of the election and polls shall open on the first day of the 2nd week and close on the last day of the third week.

Article 12. Elections, as described in articles 10 and 11 will start no earlier than one week and no later than two weeks after the election deadline of Talossan general elections or after a resolution has been approved by a majority of the l'Etats de Cézembre removing the previous Seneschal or should the Seneschal, resign, die or be unable to fulfill his duties for any reason."

FURTHERMORE all articles following Article 12 above, shall be re-numbered accordingly.

Noi urent q'estadra sa

Tycho van Die (voting member, PPT)
Litz Cjantscheir (voting member RUMP)

C2:

The second Cézembrian election amendment.

WHEREAS there are 11 ermine-spots in our flag and

WHEREAS there are 9 black and white stripes in our flag and

WHEREAS we need better election procedures btw now

THEREFORE article 7 of the constitution of Cézembre shall be amended to read:

"Article 7. Legislative power in the Sovereign Province of Cézembre is invested in l'Etats de Cézembre. l'Etats shall consist of no more and no less than twenty (20) seats. Seats in l’Etats de Cézembre can only be assigned to citizens of Cézembre. Citizens may hold more than one seat. One seat cannot be divided among nor assigned to more than one citizen."

FURTHERMORE the following articles shall be inserted, in Chapter II, after Article 7:

"Article 8. The chancery is requested to conduct elections to l'Etats. Elections to l'Etats shall be conducted at the same time as elections to the Cosâ and in accordance with the national election laws and rules. The Seneschal (or the Governor-General in case the Seneschal has been absent for more than one week) may request the chancery not to conduct those elections in no less than one week before balloting day. If the Seneschal (or Governor-General) makes such a request, the Seneschal (or the Governor-General) shall conduct the elections in accordance with provincial election laws and rules."

"Article 9. After elections to l'Etats, each party will receive 20 numbers, which will be produced by dividing the number of votes the party received by 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20. The 20 highest numbers will be referred to as high quotients. In case the 20th highest number has the same value as the 21th highest number all numbers with the same value will not be considered high quotients. This will result in vacant seats in the assembly. Each party will receive a number of seats, equal to the number of high quotients it received. Each party may divide its seats amongst Cézembrian citizens as it sees fit. If a member dies or resigns or is impeached by a motion receiving a 2/3rds vote of the L’Etats, the seats shall return to the party that assigned the seats."

FURTHERMORE all articles following Article 9 above, shall be re-numbered accordingly.

Uréu q'estadra sa

Tycho van Die (voting member, PPT)


Citizen:....................................Vote on C1:................Vote on C2:

X(horxh) G. d'Aratorxheu
Sevastain Barclamíu
A. Likazar Bisquinc.....................PER.............................PER
Ian da Bitour
X(horxh) Pol Briga......................PER..............................ASTANEU
Erschéveþ (Litz) Cjantscheir........PER..............................PER
Ian Pair Danois
Matáiwos Patritz Delgat
Tycho van Die..........................PER..............................PER
Iac Marabuerg
Eugene Oh
Lodewijk Pet..............................PER..............................PER
Nikü (Nik) Spyropoulos
Joseph Oliver Walkland
Tony Weckström
Catrina Þestra

Remember to vote between the 1st and 21st of September, this year

[Glüc da Dhi]

The referendum has started.
Voting is now possible until the 21st of this month.
I will send all Cézembrians a mail as soon as possible.
I will also update our website as soon as possible about this.

[Alèx Soleighlfred]

May I show my full confidence to those who prepared those amendments, and after reading it and thinking over it, i make my voting like that:
Alexander Likazar: C1 - PER, C2 - PER.

P.S. I also apologize for my abscence. My fellow province was actually left without a senator, thats my shame, but i hope i didnt spoil anything. sincerely yours.

[Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN]

Believing these amendments to be in the best interest of our wonderful province and will no doubt improve for the better, the way our fine province is run, I do hereby vote:

C1 : PER
C2: PER

-- Litz

[Lodewijk Pet]

C1: PER
C2: PER

[Glüc da Dhi]

btw, I couldnt find the email adresses of Nikü (Nik) Spyropoulos and Tony Weckström

[Sir X. Pol Briga]

I am ok with C1

Ok with C2, but I would like to make a friendly amendment to make the total number of votes an odd number, say 21 - or alternatively does the Seneschal have a vote only in the case of a tie vote 10:10 to resolve a given issue?

XPB

[Glüc da Dhi]

A proposed amendment to the constitution should first pass l'etats and then pass a referedum (like this one). If we want to change this amendment it should go back to l'etats and then another referendum should be held, but we probably wont make it before the General Elections. If you want to change the article I think the best way is to let this one pass and then propose a new amendment.

Anyway I dont think that's neccesary since l'etats will probably only vote on amendments and acts. In case of a tie it would mean the act didnt pass, just like in the cosa.

[Glüc da Dhi]

So far the voting percentage has been rather disappointing.
BUMP

[Glüc da Dhi]

C1- PER
C2- PER
please people, we only need a majority of those who voted, but still, show us your still there and care for your province.
Whatever your opinion on this matter, let you voice be heard!

[Sir X. Pol Briga]

Sept 9, 2010 8:17:42 GMT -6 Sir X. Pol Briga said:

I am ok with C1

Ok with C2, but I would like to make a friendly amendment to make the total number of votes an odd number, say 21 - or alternatively does the Seneschal have a vote only in the case of a tie vote 10:10 to resolve a given issue?

XPB

Sorry, that should be C1:PER and C2:ASTANEU

[Glüc da Dhi]

Voting is still possible until 23:59 TST

[Glüc da Dhi]

Voting percentage = 31%

C1 Per: 5
C2 Per: 4 Astaneu: 1

Both amendments passed this referendum.

Theres only one thing left that needs to be done: the two amendments have to be proclaimed by our Governor-General.
Since we dont have one, I think we'll have to ask the king to proclaim them.