Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
Posts: 6,112
Talossan Since: 5-14-2009
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Sept 30, 2010 13:18:50 GMT -6
Unfortunately, we have not yet enfranchised our Cézembre citizens of Maritiimi-Maxhestic. At an unspecified past date we attempted to do so, but unspecified individuals forced us not to through unspecified means. But it's all very hush-hush. If you take an oath of loyalty, we will gladly tell you all about it. HAHAHA Like I said, nothing else but laugh at your sillyness.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Oct 7, 2010 18:19:41 GMT -6
Vote for Grand Specific Undersecretary | Name | Vote | Seats | Alexander Davis | Alexander Davis | 2 | Mick Preston | - | 1 | Istefan Lorentzescu | Alexander Davis | 1 | Breneir Tzaracomprada | Alexander Davis | 1 |
Oops im doing it again, could i suggest as their is already a majority in favor that we conclude the matter as passed.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Oct 28, 2010 22:47:08 GMT -6
Okeydokey. Let's call it passed, then. It would seem proper for the GGS to proclaim it or something, I think?
That's pretty much everything I had on the ticket. Anyone else have any business?
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Oct 29, 2010 10:02:15 GMT -6
I think we might need to get our election Legislation up and running soon as the next election is looming and as i understand we currently have none
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Oct 31, 2010 1:56:01 GMT -6
I almost forgot to congratulate S:r Davis our first ever Grand Specific Undersecretary. May you out live the 100 year term of your office.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Oct 31, 2010 4:31:48 GMT -6
Ah, quite so, S:reu Lorentzescu! I forgot about the election law and that is a terrible thing for an elected fellow to do. I checked back and found I wrote up some prospective legislation, although it's not yet finished, I think. Any comments on this would be welcome: Whereas our constitution requires that the time and manner of Assembly elections is to be determined by law, and we sure don't have any such laws, and
While custom has guided us in the past, it may be unwise to continue to rely wholly upon it for our provincial electoral governance, and
We wish to create election laws that might stand trial for some cycles, and thereafter be stricken from the statutes and added to the Constitution of our mighty Province, and
Clarity of language and care of design are necessary, and
Since it appears as though the simplest course is the best and most fair to protect the dignity and democracy of our province,It is resolved by this Assembly that there shall exist a body of law called the "Election Laws for the Province of Maritiimi-Maxhestic". These election laws shall be the only lawful means by which provincial elections shall be conducted, and obedience to them shall be compulsory. Any modifications to these laws shall specifically and fully explained by the Grand General Secretary to the citizens by those means he deems appropriate. At all times the laws shall be publicly available. The Election Laws for the Province of Maritiimi-Maxhestic shall consist of the following: The Election Laws for the Province of Maritiimi-Maxhestic The size of the Provincial Assembly of Maritiimi-Maxhestic shall be equal to the number of citizens who voted for a registered political party in the most recent election. This is intended to give each individual voter their share of representation in the Assembly. Registration as a political party is simple, and amounts to giving public notice to Maritiimi-Maxhestians. This public notice shall be formally called the Sticla, and must be available on request to any potential voter. The Sticla must indicate who is the head of the party. While it is not required to have information about the political positions and advocacies of the party, this is something that is recommended. Elections shall be held in public, and shall begin at the time of national elections. They will be conducted by whoever is chosen unanimously by the outgoing Provincial Assembly; if no one is so chosen, then the Senator for the province shall be required to conduct the election. Elections shall run for exactly two weeks. The head of each party shall distribute seats in the Assembly to citizens of the province. Any citizen may be designated to hold any number of duly assigned seats. Seats may not be reassigned unless first voluntarily relinquished by their Assemblyperson, who may relinquish either the whole or any part of their seats as they choose.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Oct 31, 2010 15:47:44 GMT -6
I just have some comments
this appears to say that the GGS can make any changes he likes to the election laws ?
Could any parties that are nationally recognized be automatically recognized and only provincial parties not recognized nationally need to make a public stickla. any parties making a stickla should need to do it say 10 days before the election not unlike the national requirements
A member of the assembly would be able to relinquish part of a seat
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Nov 1, 2010 2:58:59 GMT -6
The GGS is not mentioned and has no role.
I am not sure if every national party should automatically be counted in the provincial election. I initially thought that only those parties that actually cared about M-M should be given a role, so we aren't begging for seats to be assigned time after time. I'm not sure, though.
I recognize your third point - I meant they could relinquish any part of the whole of their seats if they had multiple seats (i.e. two or one out of three total seats) but it is unclear, so the language needs to be clarified.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Nov 1, 2010 14:34:34 GMT -6
GGS is mentioned Paragraph 7 It is resolved by this Assembly that there shall exist a body of law called the "Election Laws for the Province of Maritiimi-Maxhestic". These election laws shall be the only lawful means by which provincial elections shall be conducted, and obedience to them shall be compulsory. Any modifications to these laws shall specifically and fully explained by the Grand General Secretary to the citizens by those means he deems appropriate. At all times the laws shall be publicly available.
On National Parties I see your point, But like you im not sure.
Do we need to look at the sticla being required to be posted say 10 day before the election date ?
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Nov 1, 2010 17:28:57 GMT -6
Ah, I see. But this is just about how the GGS explains the laws. He has no power to do anything, I think.
I agree, it's a great idea to have a time requirement.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Nov 1, 2010 19:48:45 GMT -6
Kewl then thier is no problem from my point of view . I know that their are some that would like other voting methods but I think that should be tackled at a later date what I feel is important now is that we have legislation in place ASAP for the next election
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Nov 2, 2010 4:23:24 GMT -6
Revised for further comment:
The size of the Provincial Assembly of Maritiimi-Maxhestic shall be equal to the number of citizens who voted for a registered political party in the most recent election. This is intended to give each individual voter their share of representation in the Assembly.
Registration as a political party is simple, and amounts to giving public notice to Maritiimi-Maxhestians a minimum of ten days before the election. This public notice shall be formally called the Sticla, and must be available on request to any potential voter. The Sticla must indicate who is the head of the party. While it is not required to have information about the political positions and advocacies of the party, this is something that is recommended.
Elections shall be held in public, and shall begin at the time of national elections. They will be conducted by whoever is chosen unanimously by the outgoing Provincial Assembly; if no one is so chosen, then the Senator for the province shall be required to conduct the election. Elections shall run for exactly two weeks.
The head of each party shall distribute seats in the Assembly to citizens of the province. Any citizen may be designated to hold any number of duly assigned seats. Seats may not be reassigned unless first voluntarily relinquished by their Assemblyperson, who may relinquish either the whole or any part of the total of their seats as they choose.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Nov 2, 2010 21:30:41 GMT -6
Sorry it still seems to me that an Assemlyperson could relinquish part of a seat maybe you could simplify it to
Seats may not be reassigned unless first voluntarily relinquished by their Assemblyperson, who may relinquish either all or any of their seats as they choose.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Nov 19, 2010 5:56:29 GMT -6
Sorry if my comments are holding this up I would be happy to support this in its current from but we would need to get this passed before the national election period begins.
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Post by Cole Schneider on Nov 19, 2010 17:44:10 GMT -6
100 years later...
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