Potential Vote Fraud.

[Capt. Sir Mick Preston]

Yesterday, I received an email, purportedly from one of our citizens.
It has been proven to a false statement.

I have turned over this attempt at vote fraud, along with one attempted last election in the guise of Al Simmerman.

[Owen Edwards]

That'd explain that...oddity a few of us noticed earlier.

I just wonder who could be behind this incredibly clever plot.

[Breneir Itravilatx]

Good job, Captain. Once the person responsible for it is identified, they should be punished to fullest extent of the law. This is just another example of your high competence, Mick!

[Hooligan]

If only the Cort would convene, a lot of Cort business could have been conducted in the past Cosa. Now there is even more. Let people draw parallels where they may.

Hooligan
PM back in the day
But whose party is only hated and castigated for all it did
And tried to do
(relying, foolishly, on promised help from ministers from other parties, who turned and walked away)
For this nation
The Kingdom of Talossa

EDIT: P.S. God save the King. He's actually a pretty cool guy.

[Owen Edwards]

I think it right to say publicly that the Magistracy did advise the government to file an actual case with it upon its creation - from that point onwards the onus was on the government, which, for whatever (perhaps justified) reason, did not do so.

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

Cases have been filed on numerous topics, but Organically we can't just refile them in another Cort. That would be an incredible miscarriage of justice. I am sure if you consider the question you will agree.

[Dréu Gavárþic'h]

Sure, but isn't it even more inorganic to never hold the trial?

[Owen Edwards]

I would not consider a case to have been filed unless it has been file officially and publicly. The case was not thoroughly filed with the Cort pu Inalt, to my knowledge, due to the fact the Cort was not in a fit state to receive it until the point where the Magistracy was created, when, coincidentally, the problem was solved anyway. It is now the more appropriate route to take this to the Magistracy.

I will accept Justice Siervicul's correction on the matter, but certainly as his recusal from the Cort was due to being a party in the case, and Senior Justice Metairia recused himself shortly afterwards I am not quite sure who would have received the full brief (including Justice Siervicul). To my knowledge, Lord Q and Sir Sam (who was to for Sir Cresti) did not receive any such proper filing.

[Sir C. M. Siervicül]

The charges were forwarded to Justices Q and Metairia and Sir Sam before SJ Metairia bowed out. I had no involvement after that other than an e-mail or two to remind them that the Cort had pending business that should be attended to.

[Owen Edwards]

I stand (partially) corrected. I'd still argue it's entirely appropriate, and no miscarriage of justice, to move the case to the Magistracy - insomuch as it sounds like an informal brief to me. No-one had gone to Cort to determine exactly what was going to happen.

I'd still say, even if it were the case that government, upon hearing that the Magistracy was ready to hear the case, decided it was inappropriate to forward it to them, that it was their responsibility to chase the Cort pu Inalt. It was their case, and their decisions that have helped damage the reputation of S:reu Weckstrom. However much many of us may have no sympathy with Tony and have our own suspicions about various matters, as for instance including New Texas, it is the basis of a free country that those who have been accused of crimes be charged for them and a just decision come to - not that their reputation lies tarnished with no chance of self-defence.

[Ieremiac'h Ventrutx]

I will add that Ián von Metáiriâ also was presented saw the merits of the case and although he would be unavailable to sit for the court he requested the allowance of another justice to be named in his place.

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

Jun 23, 2009 7:41:55 GMT -6 Owen Edwards said:

I'd still say, even if it were the case that government, upon hearing that the Magistracy was ready to hear the case, decided it was inappropriate to forward it to them, that it was their responsibility to chase the Cort pu Inalt. It was their case, and their decisions that have helped damage the reputation of S:reu Weckstrom. However much many of us may have no sympathy with Tony and have our own suspicions about various matters, as for instance including New Texas, it is the basis of a free country that those who have been accused of crimes be charged for them and a just decision come to - not that their reputation lies tarnished with no chance of self-defence.

I assure you, chasing has occurred. But there is no legal power in this instance to force the matter. Further, S:reu Weckstrom has damaged his own reputation; it was he that publicized the private communications to him about charges being filed. Had it not been for his own enthusiasm in telling the world, no one outside of the top of the Ventrutx administration and the Cort would have known about it. And in time, perhaps the Cort would have simply dismissed the charges because of the length it took for them.

To be honest, any ill effect S:reu Weckstrom has actually suffered from the prosecution has been his own fault. His privacy and reputation were carefully respected, and have been assassinated only by his own insistence.

[Owen Edwards]

I'm slightly baffled by the idea that presenting someone with criminal charges and then refusing to follow them up is still not a really poor showing by the government. As for chasing - as I say, the government was informed, upon the creation of the Magistracy, that the Magistracy was ready to hear the case. The Magistracy was not informed it was not considered an appropriate avenue for trying the case; was the Cort pu Inalt chased after that point?

[Sir Alexandreu Davinescu]

Refusing to follow them up? What do you desire to be done beyond repeated petitioning on the matter to the Cort? I'm seriously asking here... what do you think should have been done?

I didn't hear about any sort of notice about the case and the Magistracy, actually, despite being the author of the complaint and designated prosecutor. And it never would have occurred to me that it would be an option, since the Cort had neither ruled nor rejected on the charges (or officially responded otherwise) to bring redundant charges in a lesser court. So it didn't occur to me to say anything against that option.

[Owen Edwards]

I am sorry you did not hear of the option presented by the Magistracy - perhaps it should have been given directly to you too.

Insomuch as the Cort hadn't officially responded in any way, I'd say there was no undertaking whereby they would hear it; in that case, the government was well within its rights to petition another court, of whatever description. No miscarriage of justice whatsoever there. It would have been different had the Cort started to consider the case.