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Post by Eðo Grischun on Feb 26, 2009 12:44:14 GMT -6
Could you be a little more fair next time instead of just pointing to one of our citizens who has tried to get Vuode running and involve everyone instead of working "behind closed doors for an eternity while producing no results?" We're not going to get anywhere by pointing fingers. If you wish to stop the mud slinging, don't jump in on it. Dreu was completely right to state what he did, if you should be reprimanding anyone, try the member of your party who has complete disregard for the people of this province. ~V I sincerely hope that this does not escalate further, there has been enough trash thrown about already. Dreu, I do apologise for my outburst towards you, but in defense, after reading over the rest of the Vuode posts I find a single theme emerging: your impatience for things to get done, despite repeated information that Sir Troxta has responsibilities outside of Talossa that restricts his involvment. To speak of ones condesending tones, we must look at why one is being such. Take a backtrack over your posts for the past year and tell me then that someone is out of line ONLY when they have not been subjected to posts every three days like "tick tock, im still waiting". That said, I agree no one is innocent here. Can WE ALL give it a rest?
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Cjara B
Citizen since 5-3-2007
Citizen of Talossa, and now Florencia
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Post by Cjara B on Feb 26, 2009 13:14:38 GMT -6
Excuse me, I apologies if my thoughts seem unwelcome (though I have to add that Dreu has from time to time posted in Florencia, so I hope they are not completely unwelcome by some)
You guys might think about this….
“The King shall appoint a Cunstavál (or Constable) for each Province. Until such time as the King or Cunstavál proclaims a provincial constitution providing otherwise, a Province's Cunstavál shall serve as Military Governor and may exercise all the powers of the provincial government”
So look to the king untell you can build your own. The Provincial government is well governed by a governor, and in lue of it would then fall to the Constable, not the Senator...
(OrgLaw
Article XVII: Territorial Subdivisions
XVII.5 Provinces are Cantons (or groups thereof) which are self-governing and autonomous. They are administered by constitutional governments elected democratically within the Province. Provincial borders may only be changed by the Ziu with the consent of the Province or Provinces in question.
XVII.9 Each Province shall govern itself in such a manner as to guarantee its citizens the full protection of their rights under this Organic Law. Provincial elections may, if so specified in a Province's constitution, be conducted by the Chancery at the same time as elections to the Cosâ, and in accordance with the national election laws and rules. The King shall appoint a Cunstavál (or Constable) for each Province. Until such time as the King or Cunstavál proclaims a provincial constitution providing otherwise, a Province's Cunstavál shall serve as Military Governor and may exercise all the powers of the provincial government. No Cunstavál shall proclaim any provincial constitution or constitutional amendment which:
* Conflicts with any provision of this Organic Law,
* Grants to the King (and consequently to the Cunstavál as the King's representative in the Province) royal powers less extensive than those granted to the King on the national level, except that the provincial royal powers need not include a right of dissolution if provincial elections are held concurrently with Cosâ elections,)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2009 13:20:49 GMT -6
Cjara,
We welcome the input from all Talossa's citizens!
Like I previously stated, however. Sir T, our senator, is also a member of our assembly. There are four seats, he controls two.
*Nothing* can be done unless all three of us are working together. I'm trying not to take his "working behind the scenes without our help" as an affront but am finding it increasingly difficult. Thank you for your input.
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Cjara B
Citizen since 5-3-2007
Citizen of Talossa, and now Florencia
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Post by Cjara B on Feb 26, 2009 13:41:24 GMT -6
I suppose if this wasn’t clear before; Talk to the King and have a Cunstavál appointed to deal with your problems, and maybe help iron out the tangle right now. On a side note I would also feel a little offended by how you were talking about Sir T, and I think a dunking would do you all good, seems really heated around here on both sides.
So I will restate my idea of appealing to the king for a Cunstavál appointment (if you don’t already have one) and in the mean time just talk about the weather.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2009 13:51:51 GMT -6
By all means, be offended. But, if you are or anybody is to be offended, then I eagerly await your reply disproving what I have said. This is, in my opinion, a time when I want to be wrong. Alas, I am not. If anything I have said is inaccurate, I will apologize for it. Until that time comes, I'm going to continue calling a spade a spade.
Shall we continue this tit for tat? I appreciate you advice and will take it into consideration if we cannot get things going.
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Feb 27, 2009 2:34:44 GMT -6
Dreu, again I apologise for my outburt, you were the victim of someone wanting to vent some steam. I was wrong to take my frustrations out on anybody, let alone you. It won't happen again.
I herby draw a line in the sand, and leave it all behind me. Will fellow Vuodeans do so also?
Incidently, I think the month of recess is a perfect time for us to focus on Vuode issues. Any suggestions or ideas how we might tackle this as a team?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2009 8:29:38 GMT -6
Eovart,
I agree with you. Let bygones be bygones.
Talossan politics are drastically different from the politics we all face in our individuals nations/provinces/states outside of Talossa. In my opinion, Vuode is no exception to this. What we face in Vuode is completely and utterly different from Kingdom politics and therefore I believe we should focus more on building our provinces TOGETHER and not behind closed doors, not working in secret, and listen to our fellow citizens. What good is work done if I did it alone and in the end, nobody wants to put it into practice?
I say, let us try and "push the reset button." And most importantly, try and keep our outside of Vuode attitudes separate.
Dreu, Sir T, and I all sit on the assembly. It is time the three of us listened and got this province going.
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Feb 27, 2009 20:53:40 GMT -6
**applauds** Here, Here.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Mar 4, 2009 16:40:14 GMT -6
Damn straight V! I applaud you as well.
@"The Grisch" (I kinda like that) no offense taken.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2009 13:31:55 GMT -6
I am still waiting for Sir T to share with us his work.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Mar 23, 2009 7:04:52 GMT -6
Ahem.
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Post by Aladna la Mha-Coca on Apr 1, 2009 9:34:14 GMT -6
*planting daisies in Vuode*
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Apr 2, 2009 15:28:22 GMT -6
*Plants a Tree*
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Post by Aladna la Mha-Coca on Apr 9, 2009 17:17:44 GMT -6
*Picks up the glass from the last bar fight*
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Apr 11, 2009 7:03:08 GMT -6
*dares to eat a peach*
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