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Post by Cody Ellsworth on Feb 1, 2009 16:41:00 GMT -6
Cody agrees. Me think it good idea. Makes sense for official ones to be ran by official people.
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Post by Owen Edwards on Feb 1, 2009 18:58:11 GMT -6
Brad, I think your formulation re: delegated websites is good, but I'd change it to "any and all official or officially-sanctioned websites" etc, given the idea of "ownership" discussed above. Otherwise this law continues the messy status of Witt as affected by official decisions without having a meaningful legal status as "official" (we don't own it - ala the Republic, which has legally nationalised - or "nationalised" - its websites).
EDIT: Additionally, of course, the problem re: Witt extends to KoT.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 19:04:59 GMT -6
I have only one concern...
Recently I made a website for the Province of Benito. I did so because I am the Maestro and a concerned citizen. What with provinces becoming more and more active, can we add the stipulation that a province can authorise websites relating directly to the province as being "official?"
It could be as simple as each province being directed to maintain an authorised list of officially sanctioned provincial websites, while websites relating to the entire Kingdom must be authorised by an appropriate ministry.
I just want to make sure we don't get the feds all up in our bid-ness 'less they need to.
Yo.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Feb 1, 2009 19:12:52 GMT -6
I hope im not out of line.
Wouldnt be easier that province could recomend/authorise provincial sites to be either official site or blacklisted on the main list.
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Brad Holmes
Cunstaval to Maritiimi-Maxhestic
Atatürkey, and flying by the seat of my RUMP
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Talossan Since: 3-16-2006
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Post by Brad Holmes on Feb 1, 2009 19:34:12 GMT -6
Owen, Capt'n Tim:
Your suggestions are bolded.
Sten:
You're not out of line. But I don't really see too many bogus Provincial sites. Should it become a problem, I think one master blacklist is better maintained by the national government.
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Post by Istefan Lorentzescu on Feb 1, 2009 20:20:44 GMT -6
Sten: You're not out of line. But I don't really see too many bogus Provincial sites. Should it become a problem, I think one master blacklist is better maintained by the national government. Brad I agree we probably won't really see too many bogus Provincial sites. I was trying to suggest instead of provincial lists as suggested by T.M. Asmourescu. Giving provinces a chance to list sites on one master list maintained by the national government thats all. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2009 20:59:48 GMT -6
Owen, Capt'n Tim: Your suggestions are bolded. Sten: You're not out of line. But I don't really see too many bogus Provincial sites. Should it become a problem, I think one master blacklist is better maintained by the national government. Your latest revision works for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2009 12:58:54 GMT -6
You're mad? lol Why are you mad? Like I've said, you need to lighten up and not take things so seriously. As far as whatever a drue is, I don't even care. Humans were programmed to label things, so label away my friend. Besides, I've never been bothered by petty insults anyways. I've said all I could say and it hasn't seemed to put forth any progress. There's really no other way to show people that my site isn't official other than saying it (which I clearly have...), or putting some blinking ads all over letting them know that. If they don't get to the point where it says it isn't, they didn't read anything at all... So does any of this pointless debating mean anything? Nope, not all. Wasted some valuable time in our lives. And I think it's shameful that you would try to say that I'm undermining the greatness of Talossa. It further proves how desperate you are to prove your point. There's a need for more citizens to expand Talossa, that was all I was implying, and you know it. It is almost too hysterical how you debunk "petty insults" while hurling them. Thought you weren't going to reply anymore. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2009 12:59:39 GMT -6
Question--- The Republic makes use of the name "Talossa". As does Ben's almost nonexistant "Other Talossa", as brought up by S:reu Larsen. Now I could honestly care less about Ben's little pretend Talossa, but the Republic is a functioning state, regardless of its current de jure status. By enacting this bill, what sort of affect, if any at all, would it have upon our relations with the Republic? Would we request that they become an "unofficial" website under the jurisdiction of a Royal Ministry? What would it matter? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2009 13:04:14 GMT -6
The I Can't Believe It's Not A Talossa Website Act WHEREAS; Talossa relies heavily on her many citizens to act as a face of the Kingdom; WHEREAS; the Kingdom of Talossa must work to protect itself from persons acting in the name of Talossa on the Internet; WHEREAS; any Prospective citizens or visitors could stumble upon fake or bogus information on random websites, turning them away or just terribly confusing them; WHEREAS; a list of known fake or bogus sites should be maintained as an aid to alleviate and prevent aforementioned confusion; WHEREAS; due to the advent of online social networking, pages on said sites should be set up in official capacity by an assigned Ministry within the government; THEREFORE; the Ziu hereby requires that any and all official or officially-sanctioned websites, social networking pages, online Embassies, and any other future form of Internet group be run by an assigned Ministry from the Prime Minister, assigned member of the government, or private citizens, when explicit permission is granted by the Prime Minister; THEREFORE; non-government sanctioned web sites in relation to Talossa, including social networking sites, must have clear and visible text that says the page is an UNOFFICIAL website; THEREFORE; it is up to the Prime Minister or his delegate to decide and outline what constitutes “clear and visible” and determine any violations; THEREFORE; the Prime Minister or his delegate shall monitor both official and unofficial Talossan websites, contact the owner as needed, and maintain a public list of official and bogus or fake sites as they are brought to the government’s attention; THEREFORE; the Government of Talossa has the right to require the transfer of a website or a deletion of website if it is not made clear, within the government’s definition, that the existing site is UNOFFICIAL; THEREFORE; violations of this Act may be considered acts of sedition or treason, punishable by warnings, fines, or revocation of citizenship. THEREFORE; Provincal websites shall be licensed by their respective governments under the same provisions of this Act.Noi urent q'estadra sa Viteu Toctviac'hteir – MC, PP Brad Holmes – Senator (Atatürk) Great reworking! Everyone who has offered to cosign this bill have been noted. I am glad to have both an MP and a Senator as a signatory and find that should suffice. |
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Post by Cody Ellsworth on Feb 2, 2009 17:30:23 GMT -6
You're mad? lol Why are you mad? Like I've said, you need to lighten up and not take things so seriously. As far as whatever a drue is, I don't even care. Humans were programmed to label things, so label away my friend. Besides, I've never been bothered by petty insults anyways. I've said all I could say and it hasn't seemed to put forth any progress. There's really no other way to show people that my site isn't official other than saying it (which I clearly have...), or putting some blinking ads all over letting them know that. If they don't get to the point where it says it isn't, they didn't read anything at all... So does any of this pointless debating mean anything? Nope, not all. Wasted some valuable time in our lives. And I think it's shameful that you would try to say that I'm undermining the greatness of Talossa. It further proves how desperate you are to prove your point. There's a need for more citizens to expand Talossa, that was all I was implying, and you know it. It is almost too hysterical how you debunk "petty insults" while hurling them. Nice try. But anyone can tell you were being insulting. All I did was defend myself from your insults. How is calling someone a name not an insult? I didn't insult you anywhere in there. Don't try to pull me into that with you. As I said - I was defending myself. You would have liked me to just take that though, wouldn't you? How is calling someone a name not an insult? You might interpret this as sinking to your level, but name calling is really childish. I might have respected you if you could have at least ended on an honorable note. I hereby declare this pathetic "debate" an epic fail. I tried making up with you a couple times. But hey, I can't stop anyone but myself. I still don't consider you an enemy or anything though. Just a fellow Talossan. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2009 18:05:25 GMT -6
It is almost too hysterical how you debunk "petty insults" while hurling them. Nice try. But anyone can tell you were being insulting. All I did was defend myself from your insults. How is calling someone a name not an insult? I didn't insult you anywhere in there. Don't try to pull me into that with you. As I said - I was defending myself. You would have liked me to just take that though, wouldn't you? How is calling someone a name not an insult? You might interpret this as sinking to your level, but name calling is really childish. I might have respected you if you could have at least ended on an honorable note. I hereby declare this pathetic "debate" an epic fail. I tried making up with you a couple times. But hey, I can't stop anyone but myself. I still don't consider you an enemy or anything though. Just a fellow Talossan. What name did I call you? |
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Post by Cody Ellsworth on Feb 2, 2009 18:14:27 GMT -6
Nice try. But anyone can tell you were being insulting. All I did was defend myself from your insults. How is calling someone a name not an insult? I didn't insult you anywhere in there. Don't try to pull me into that with you. As I said - I was defending myself. You would have liked me to just take that though, wouldn't you? How is calling someone a name not an insult? You might interpret this as sinking to your level, but name calling is really childish. I might have respected you if you could have at least ended on an honorable note. I hereby declare this pathetic "debate" an epic fail. I tried making up with you a couple times. But hey, I can't stop anyone but myself. I still don't consider you an enemy or anything though. Just a fellow Talossan. What name did I call you? Pfff lol, I'm not even talking to you anymore. Good bye. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2009 18:24:34 GMT -6
What name did I call you? Pfff lol, I'm not even talking to you anymore. Good bye. LMAO! Well, if you're going to say I said something, I would like you to show me where I said it. Obviously, you cannot. |
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Post by Owen Edwards on Feb 2, 2009 18:28:19 GMT -6
Can we stop this now? Take it to PMs if there needs to be a drawn-out discussion, this isn't the place.
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