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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2008 16:25:30 GMT -6
I'm thinking of something here but I want some thoughts... What do you guys think about amending the Naval Reorg Act 35RZ32 to lower the minimum age for commission as officers? Here's some food for thought...the U.S. Navy will commission a college educated person between the ages of 19 and 35 www.navy-reserve.org/Default.aspx?tabid=264The minimum age for enlistment in the U.S. Military is 17 (16 for some guard and militia units) You can enlist at 14 in the Talossan military but must be 21 to receive a commission. Thoughts?
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Nov 7, 2008 18:46:47 GMT -6
I would say that the age might be dropped to 18. But I'd tack on the requirement of a High School Diplomacy or G.E.D. as a requirement.
Anything to keep people in school, and all that.
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Post by Daniel Filan on Nov 7, 2008 18:55:23 GMT -6
Yes, it would probably be a bad idea if the military became an alternative to school.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2008 19:03:24 GMT -6
Here is my concern. Let's say we have someone who enlists in the Talossan military at age 16. They are active and an asset to the military, but have to wait until 21 before they can be commissioned.
Here is what I'm thinking, let me know what you guys think.
What if we say 20 for a direct commission, that is, in order to enter the military as an officer, you have to be 20 and so on with other educational requirements, but for prior service and active duty, you can receive a commission at 17 if you complete an Officer's Candidate course?
Capt. Mick may recall that we worked under Sir T when he was MinDef for quite a while trying to develop a curriculum for that same officer training course, it might not be a bad idea to revive that.
Thoughts?
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Nov 7, 2008 19:15:28 GMT -6
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Nov 8, 2008 7:41:41 GMT -6
Here is my concern. Let's say we have someone who enlists in the Talossan military at age 16. They are active and an asset to the military, but have to wait until 21 before they can be commissioned. Here is what I'm thinking, let me know what you guys think. What if we say 20 for a direct commission, that is, in order to enter the military as an officer, you have to be 20 and so on with other educational requirements, but for prior service and active duty, you can receive a commission at 17 if you complete an Officer's Candidate course? Capt. Mick may recall that we worked under Sir T when he was MinDef for quite a while trying to develop a curriculum for that same officer training course, it might not be a bad idea to revive that. Thoughts? What if we make a military school-esque programme? Say that you can receive a commission in the "military school" (akin to a JROTC) which would have its own "officers." I'm thinking of maybe an Air Force Academy/Naval Academy/West Point ranking system- junior Lt.., junior capt., junior commander, Junior Capitan of the (insert the name of this institution here). Upon graduation at 20 you automatically receive a commission in the military of whichever rank the MoD deems you worthy of.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Nov 8, 2008 8:22:23 GMT -6
Mv, are you saying JROTC in regular public schools (should Talossa ever have them)?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2008 8:54:22 GMT -6
Hey look! A tangent!
Let me clarify my position before this goes too far off course.
What if I, along with Capt. Mick, Lt. Davis and pretty much any other active member of the military put in our two cents on a training program for officers consisting of Talossan and general military knowledge/history.
Upon graduation, you are commissioned as an Officer or Warrant Officer. In order to get in, you must either be 20 years of age OR be at least 17 years old and have served for at least one year in the Talossan military.
Heck, I'd even be willing to have an option to waive a person who is 16 years of age but has at least 2 years of active duty service.
But what do you guys think?
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Nov 8, 2008 9:09:56 GMT -6
That sounds fine to me.
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Post by Daniel Filan on Nov 8, 2008 16:45:51 GMT -6
Sounds good to me as well.
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Post by Owen Edwards on Nov 9, 2008 16:53:47 GMT -6
Depends what you perceive the military as being. In the sense of its currently effectively ceremonial function - sure. In any other circumstances - definitely not.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2008 12:45:21 GMT -6
Depends what you perceive the military as being. In the sense of its currently effectively ceremonial function - sure. In any other circumstances - definitely not. I'm having trouble seeing the need for this. What are the benefits/consequences of receiving a commission in a ceremonial organization? I feel like this is sort of a non-issue, but I'm happy to be shown the utility of making the change suggested.
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Post by Davíu Pol Siervicül on Nov 12, 2008 18:49:12 GMT -6
I'm having trouble seeing the need for this. What are the benefits/consequences of receiving a commission in a ceremonial organization? I feel like this is sort of a non-issue, but I'm happy to be shown the utility of making the change suggested. Well sure it IS sort of a non-issue with a ceremonial organization, but then again even ceremonial details would need to be 'commanded' by somebody. And a little 'pomp' never hurt anybody.
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Post by Flip Molinar on Nov 12, 2008 21:17:53 GMT -6
I'm having trouble seeing the need for this. What are the benefits/consequences of receiving a commission in a ceremonial organization? I feel like this is sort of a non-issue, but I'm happy to be shown the utility of making the change suggested. Well sure it IS sort of a non-issue with a ceremonial organization, but then again even ceremonial details would need to be 'commanded' by somebody. And a little 'pomp' never hurt anybody. I agree with that.
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