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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Apr 9, 2008 8:29:50 GMT -6
The Tibetan and Unrecognized Peoples Autonomy Act
Whereas the Chinese government, like many governments across the globe, undertakes actions which have sought to suppress their cultural, economic, political and territorial autonomy, and
Whereas it is incumbent upon those who support the right of the Tibetan people and all peoples to be free to express their support, act to make it possible for their right to self-determination to be acheived and condemn any entity which engages in actions dedicated toward other ends.
Therefore, the Ziu acts in the following ways:
Recognizes the sovereignty of the Tibetan government-in-exile based in Dharamsala, India as the sole legitimate representative of the Tibetan people,
Establishes an ambassadorial office (Ambassador to Indigenous and Unrecognized Peoples) to further Talossa's efforts to assist peoples whose rights are currently unrecognized and unaddressed by the international community,
Sets aside $50 dollars to be donated to the Tibetan government-in-exile, the American Himalaya Fund or a similar organization or entity in order to support efforts of the Tibetan people to be self-reliant and resist Chinese efforts to upend their cultural, economic, political and territorial autonomy.
Noi urent q'estadra sa
Breneir Tzaracomprada (LRT-Mariitimi-Maxhestic) Flip Molinar (LRT-Benito) Matáiwos Vürinalt (LRT-Benito)
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Apr 9, 2008 10:28:34 GMT -6
I absolutely oppose the expenditure part of this bill. Money is hard to come by in Talossa, and should be spent on Talossa first. As the need to spend it on coins, stamps, and items of state - vital to our national interests - approaches, we should not be giving it to other countries when there is an excellent chance we might need it ourselves.
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Apr 9, 2008 10:44:28 GMT -6
Is it the amount or the fact that there is an expenditure at all? I would be happy with even $5 as long as we contribute something.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Apr 9, 2008 10:52:17 GMT -6
I would suggest taking up a voluntary collection, but I am afraid to set a precedent wherein we have a dozen collections a year.
I think the most workable proposition would be to set aside a certain, small amount of money for these purposes every term. The Finance Minister can determine how this "dispensation for foreign aid" will be exactly allocated. And I would suggest limiting the total expenditure to $20.
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Apr 9, 2008 10:54:01 GMT -6
That is an excellent idea. I will consult with the co-sponsors and should it be approved make the necessary changes.
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Xhorxh Asmour
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Post by Xhorxh Asmour on Apr 9, 2008 11:04:24 GMT -6
As a human being, I strongly oppose violence or oppression against any kind of minority. As Talossa's Finance Minister my opinion is, due to the fact that our money bin is almost empty and to the top priorities we have established, I strongly disapprove of any extra expenditures, especially not related to Talossan needs.
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Post by Owen Edwards on Apr 9, 2008 11:10:19 GMT -6
As I understand it, no Talossan is currently being brutally repressed for harbouring political, religious or cultural opinions adverse to the ruling elite's, so the money marked "Talossan need for humanitarian aid" is currently going to waste.
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Post by Owen Edwards on Apr 9, 2008 11:39:46 GMT -6
Having discussed this a little, I'm actually thinking there might be a better route for this sort of thing - a Bureau for Humanitarian Aid set up within the Foreign Ministry. This Bureau would administer a fund - mostly voluntary, perhaps with governmental contributions, perhaps even pan-Talossan, which wlould be a great way to work towards the same Talossan goal together - that would, with the propers checks, balances, etc, be distributed to needy charities/funds/etc.
How does that sound? As a starter for ten.
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Post by Hooligan on Apr 9, 2008 12:26:02 GMT -6
The Men In Black II bill, hoppered elsewhere, provides for a mechanism by which the government supplies the Ziu with a budget, listing the planned expenditures of each Ministry. I would think that the type of expenditure proposed by this bill would be covered by any funds budgeted for use by the Foreign Ministry, and such contributions could be line-itemed into that budget.
Note that this current Cosa is probably too far along for the mechanism being put in place by MIBII (if approved) to be followed, so the first budget will likely be presented by the next government, as elected for the 39th (not the current, 38th) Cosa. However, if people feel that this current Cosa should also be presented with a MIBII-mandated budget for approval, I invite such a discussion in the thread for the MIBII bill.
Hooligan
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Post by Owen Edwards on Apr 9, 2008 12:27:45 GMT -6
I think the creation of a new Bureau can happily be independent from MIBII; so, if I remember correctly, can initial voluntary funding.
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Apr 9, 2008 12:38:51 GMT -6
All of this sounds great. I will add this to the list to follow up with the co-sponsors.
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Apr 9, 2008 12:50:29 GMT -6
It would be nice to reference 6RC59, the Tibetan Freedom Act in this bill. E.g. to show that this bill is consistent with long-standing Talossan policy regarding the Chinese occupation of Tibet. We should recognise that this bill is a reaffirmation of our previous position rather than a new recognition of the sovereignty of Tibet.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Apr 9, 2008 14:07:53 GMT -6
I don't think a new bureau is needed. We have enough bureaus and mechanisms, and in fact such an agency would appear to mandate its usage, which is not necessarily what is needed. Just let it be a budgetary item to be administered by the Finance Minister, and each administration can budget whatever amount of money they feel appropriate. I assume different parties will have different ideas of what is appropriate, so this gives voters a chance to express their will on the matter with elections.
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Post by Owen Edwards on Apr 9, 2008 14:55:29 GMT -6
Well it does not REALLY "appear to mandate its usage", as my suggestion does not include requiring government funding; it does not mandate constant fundraising, though that's no problem by me; it provides a place for aid money to be stored, to be dispensed as determined necessary (though a question is how exactly that'd happen, but that's the nitty gritty, not the concept).
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Brad Holmes
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Post by Brad Holmes on Apr 9, 2008 20:48:40 GMT -6
I absolutely oppose the expenditure part of this bill. Money is hard to come by in Talossa, and should be spent on Talossa first. As the need to spend it on coins, stamps, and items of state - vital to our national interests - approaches, we should not be giving it to other countries when there is an excellent chance we might need it ourselves. As a human being, I strongly oppose violence or oppression against any kind of minority. As Talossa's Finance Minister my opinion is, due to the fact that our money bin is almost empty and to the top priorities we have established, I strongly disapprove of any extra expenditures, especially not related to Talossan needs. Yep. Don't deplete the treasury until we have a treasury. Especially on anything non-Talossan. And why do we need another office?
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