Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
Posts: 6,511
Talossan Since: 9-21-2006
Knight Since: 10-12-2010
Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Jan 27, 2008 13:53:33 GMT -6
I can see the logic of retaining your citizenship if you physically move
If one moved from say.. Kentucky to ..Indiana, they would be loathe to call themselves a Hoosier.
or, taking on the Citizenship of the new Province if they moved
If one moved from say.. Indiana to Kentucky , they would be excited to call themselves a Kentuckian.
But I can't see changing your citizenship because you live in Indiana, but think it would be way cool to say you area citizen of California.
I would be opposed to not having a physical tie to the Province at one time.
Here's a question -
I grew up in Florencia. Attended school, Graduated from the University of Colorado. Paid taxes , had a residence, drivers license, etc.
If for some reason, with the right mathematical equations and stars aligning up correctly-
By this change, could I suddenly re-embrace my Florencian roots and change my Citizenship?
Edit:
Ironically, Count Dan might move into the Mussolini Province soon.
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Post by Owen Edwards on Jan 27, 2008 19:00:01 GMT -6
This raises the whole issue of defining Provincial membership and the idea of "constituency" within Talossa. Can of worms much?
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Hooligan
Squirrel King of Arms; Cunstaval to Maricopa
Posts: 7,325
Talossan Since: 7-12-2005
Motto: PRIMA CAPIAM POCULA
Baron Since: 11-20-2005
Count Since: 9-8-2012
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Post by Hooligan on Jan 27, 2008 23:25:56 GMT -6
I like Sir Cresti's idea that immigration law be modified to provide that anyone who has ever physically resided within any of the Talossan provinces should be permitted to choose to remain (or be once again) a citizen of his or her province of residence despite any moves that may happen later in life.
I would welcome the chance to vote for a bill making such a change. Although it could be a Prime Dictate, I prefer the debate and discussion of the Ziu, and if Dan has waited this long, another month won't be too long for him.
Hooligan
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Vit Caçeir
"I hated being AG so much I fled as far from it as literally possible."
Posts: 810
Talossan Since: 11-19-2007
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Post by Vit Caçeir on Jan 28, 2008 0:24:15 GMT -6
The basic effect of this bill is to destroy provinces as geographically-based entities and turn them into voluntary interest communities. Which, in my opinion, makes Talossa look less like a nation and more like some Internet club. I agree with Sir Siervicül's statement here. If I understand the provincial assignment process (do correct me if I misunderstand) right, the citizen's province is assigned based on their global geographic location. While I understand the M.C.'s statement that "a country should not be a police state", letting people change provinces makes Talossa look more like a virtual-state... granted if the person moves out of their provincial-administration area on the globe, they might change provinces but... allowing it to occur at will makes Talossa look like a micronation. In the case of Count Dan though, a P.D. could be acceptable.
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Xhorxh Asmour
Talossan since 02-21-2003
Wot? Me, worry?
Posts: 1,754
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Post by Xhorxh Asmour on Jan 28, 2008 9:04:40 GMT -6
Yes, a P.D. would do the trick!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2008 11:36:47 GMT -6
I really don't get the point of this act. We assign areas to specific provinces. It would be like Dan being born in New Orleans, moving to Baton Rouge, and complaining about being stuck in "New Orleans." In the American system, if you move somewhere, you have to legally register at that address. I cannot live in North Carolina while holding onto my New York residency (technically I can, but it is actually illegal). So exactly what is the point of this act?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2008 11:37:40 GMT -6
It seems the point I was making has already been brought up... lol... once again I arrive too late on the scene.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Jan 28, 2008 15:33:42 GMT -6
withdrawn so that a PD may be put forth instead
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