EM Vürinalt
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Feb 23, 2008 8:29:32 GMT -6
Since great debate is swirling in the Ziu over the Kosovo Independance act, I took it upon myself to find a website with free Albanian lessons. Shockingly, I found more than I intended to look for. Believe it or not, Albanian actually has some direct similarities to El Glheþ such as the "xh" polygraph and the "ll" polygraph. Yet another interesting similarity lies in spoken Albanian, where the letter ë is also silent, much similar to the Talossan silent ë marking irregular verbs. However, the silent ë in Albanian does not provide the same function. For example: Albanian: Mirë (Good), pronounced "Meer" not "Meeru" as the direct puncuation would. Albanian: Mirëmëngjes, pronounced "Mee-ru-mun-giyes" as the phonological pronunciation mandates Although there are no direct similarities in the languages, the orthography remains shockingly similar. Of course, our Talossanisms do overshadow the simple orthography of the Albanian language with the same phonological sound being: ç- Talossan [C] sound ( ciovec) th - th sound in Glhe þnj - Talossan ng like spanish ñ zh - Talossan tx like s in vision I found this very interesting, especially the direct correlation of the "xh" dipthong. Just thought I'd share this with all youse.  ~Vürinalt en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_languagewww.cezarkurti.com/leralb1.html |
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Feb 23, 2008 9:14:52 GMT -6
The "xh" (this is not a diphthong, a diphthong is two vowels next to each other) was intentionally Albanian. Remember that Enver Hoxha (pronounced Enver Hoja) was one of Ben's heroes  |
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Feb 23, 2008 9:17:11 GMT -6
The xh was definitely borrowed from Albanian. I suspect that ë was as well. And there are a lot of Albanian words in Talossan as well. Communist Albania was yet another of the wacky dictatorships that influenced the development of early Talossa -- Milwaukee's airport (Mitchell Field) is known to Talossans as "Enver Hoxha International Airport."
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EM Vürinalt
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Feb 23, 2008 9:18:07 GMT -6
The "xh" (this is not a diphthong, a diphthong is two vowels next to each other) was intentionally Albanian. Remember that Enver Hoxha (pronounced Enver Hoja) was one of Ben's heroes Shushums. It is rather interesting still... |
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Feb 23, 2008 9:18:29 GMT -6
indeed ;D
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EM Vürinalt
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Feb 23, 2008 9:21:10 GMT -6
Ahh thanks for the clarification.
Are there any histories for the Talossan language I could read??
Talossan seems to be a Romance language with Slavic and Germanic orthography, and I'd certainly like to learn as much about the language as I can.
The only bit I could find was a blurb in the 1996 Grammer that is, unfortunately, quite vague.
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Feb 23, 2008 9:27:20 GMT -6
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Feb 23, 2008 9:44:02 GMT -6
Are there any histories for the Talossan language I could read?? Aside from the page Dréu linked to, also definitely read ¿Qët isch el Glheþ Talossán? -- Madison's essay about the nature of the Talossan language. |
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EM Vürinalt
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Feb 23, 2008 9:47:31 GMT -6
Thanks for the links! They diffinately helped understand the seemingly humble-jumble of words.
Perhaps the CÚG can consilidate all these on our webpage??
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Feb 24, 2008 6:38:03 GMT -6
I think that's a damn good idea. Mr. Ventrutx?
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EM Vürinalt
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Feb 24, 2008 8:33:13 GMT -6
Hahah I can have good ideas every now and then... lol
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Post by Xhorxh Asmour on Feb 25, 2008 9:36:34 GMT -6
The "xh" (this is not a diphthong, a diphthong is two vowels next to each other) was intentionally Albanian. Remember that Enver Hoxha (pronounced Enver Hoja) was one of Ben's heroes Sorry! A diphthong is a semiconsonant (like y or w) + a vowel or a vowel + a semivowel! For example, the ai in naive is not a diphthong. |
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Feb 25, 2008 9:46:58 GMT -6
Sorry! A diphthong is a semiconsonant (like y or w) + a vowel or a vowel + a semivowel! For example, the ai in naive is not a diphthong. Whereas the i in knives is a diphthong, even though most Americans think of it as a single pure vowel ("long I").  |
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Post by EM Vürinalt on Feb 26, 2008 16:15:36 GMT -6
Ohh the beauty of language. I swear, of everything in the world, language is the most complex. It's been here forever, and doesn't plan on leaving anytime soon. |
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Feb 26, 2008 16:18:25 GMT -6
Though, as my Latin teacher said today, "The English subjunctive is dying. NOOOO!!! DON'T FOLLOW THE LIGHT!! STAY WITH US... PLEASE! It's dying, my friends... don't let it die..."
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