King John
King of Talossa
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Talossan Since: 5-7-2005
Knight Since: 11-30-2005
Motto: COR UNUM
King Since: 3-14-2007
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Post by King John on Dec 3, 2007 11:03:59 GMT -6
But we often use "Talossan" to mean a citizen of Talossa, whether resident within the Kingdom or not. And "Cestour" is specifically a non-citizen resident.
I seems to me this is a solution searching for a problem. We don't very often need to refer to all the inhabitants of Talossa, citizens or not; and when we do, why not just call them "residents of Talossa" (arvorieirs in Talossa, þavitinds da Talossa)? Or if it's the whole GTA we're talking about, "Milwaukeeans" or Milvoc'hteirs, or maybe arvorieirs proxins — "dwellers nearby".
— John R
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Post by Owen Edwards on Dec 3, 2007 13:00:45 GMT -6
Your Majesty,
You have struck upon the main characteristic of philologists. *grins*
-O
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Dec 3, 2007 20:48:20 GMT -6
An ungenerous dismissal, Alexander. Certainly a term denoting those living within metropolitan Talossa would be useful, American or Talossan. That does not mean it is out of order to inquire as to the present use of Cestour, where it comes from, and what might replace it, given the tradition attached to the term. If anyone in this thread doesn't "quite seem to understand", explain patiently - I know we all sometimes need a little patience given! If I might be so bold - and I mean this not as any sort of condemnation but as a friendly observation from a newbie who reckons you're pretty cool - you leap to dismissal when someone who hasn't your experience in Talossa seeks to understand deeper causes, or discusses different elements to those your own argument is coterminous with. We newbies may be ignorant, but they need a generous education! I was actually referring to Dreu, someone "who hasn't my experience in Talossa" but yet had the audacity to tell S:reu Asmour "Tradition! Tradition! It's an extremely important Talossan word." You are not anywhere near as presumptuous, so I was not referring to you. Asmour proposed that the term "Cestour" be changed to refer to citizens and residents of the GTA alike. Dreu replied that he wanted to know what we would refer to residents of the GTA as. Asmour replied that he should reread the post, as he should have. Dreu repeated himself. Asmour repeated himself. And so it goes. I merely meant that Asmour should give up on him. Quite right, I feel that even as one of the newer Talossans, tradition is extremely important! I think I have the right to feel so, as a citizen, even though I have not experienced many of these traditions. (If you were gonna do that other thing though copanp sounds good)
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Capt. Sir Mick Preston
Capitán of the Zouaves
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Motto: Cuimhnichibh air na daoine bho'n d'thainig sibh
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Dec 3, 2007 21:15:41 GMT -6
Dreu is becoming like the citizens of Northern Ireland.
More British than those that live in England.
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